Killah Priest Talks Abraxas 2 And Gets Real Deep About The Elites Control! PT. 1&2

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We had a little technical difficulty, but we got to it, we got through it. And I got special guest in the building. He's fixing his camera right now. I was trying to like, wait for him to fix his camera. He getting it together though. Introduce yourself. Introduce yourself to the folks. [00:04:37] Speaker B: Brax's Lord, Killer Priest. What's good? [00:04:40] Speaker A: So how many monikers do you have? Huh? How many monikers do you have? [00:04:47] Speaker B: Oh, man. Oh, I don't even know, man. [00:04:52] Speaker A: That's right. [00:04:52] Speaker B: I can't even put it. Yeah. [00:04:54] Speaker A: That's why I asked you, who are you today? But we kill a priest today. We kill a priest today. [00:04:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:04:59] Speaker A: All right, all right, all right. [00:05:01] Speaker B: I was about to come on and practice, Lord, but as soon as I said kill the priest. Yeah, it worked. Everything worked. So I said, all right, we go kill a priest. [00:05:09] Speaker A: So pronounce that title again. Because I got it twisted. I was saying how you pronounce it. [00:05:16] Speaker B: Abraxas. [00:05:17] Speaker A: Okay. And what does that mean? [00:05:19] Speaker B: Abraxas. So Abraxas is like. It's like the ancient name of. Is the ancient name of, like the mystics is like an ancient name for Abracadabra also, isn't. It is a cometic and a Hebrew name. So Brax is. Is the. Is the. Is the God. Know. [00:05:43] Speaker A: I mean, I seen it. Did. I seen it has something to do. Marble had a character. Abraxas too. Right. If I'm not mistaken. [00:05:50] Speaker B: Because they be on point. [00:05:51] Speaker A: Right, right. [00:05:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:05:52] Speaker A: People don't know about that. But the Marvel. [00:05:54] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:05:55] Speaker A: Marvel. [00:05:55] Speaker B: They got the L. But, you know, there's many names for God. So you got L, which is a group of gods. [00:06:04] Speaker A: Right. [00:06:04] Speaker B: And you have a practice. Yeah. So one of the. One of the. One. One of those mystic names. [00:06:09] Speaker A: So this album, I listened to the album. I'm one of the people who always deep dive in your catalog because I've been a supporter from the first time I heard you. And my favorite joint on this joint, because I got it marked in this call. I think it's called Flow. Hold on, hold on. Let me get to it. Let me get to it. Because I know the title. Flow as well. Flow as well. I love that joint. That's my favorite joint. Flow as well. [00:06:42] Speaker B: One of my favorite joints. [00:06:44] Speaker A: Yeah, I love Flow as well. When you're putting these albums together, is it a mind state? Because I know you're a creative individual. You might have 20 albums in your head. How do you say, all right, this is this album. How do you. When you putting this album together right here, how do you pick the songs, the beats, to put this particular project together? [00:07:06] Speaker B: Well, this one particularly, you know, I work very, very close with the producer and the producer for this. This album is purpose, tragic allies. Okay? So I like to have a connection with the producer. If I'm not involved in it. You know, I'm saying, like, if I'm not doing the whole thing by myself, I like to sit down with the producer and we find a direction. And you don't have that kind of conversation of what type of beast that I feel. And so it's a thought of before because I have a couple of titles I have in my mind and ideas and concepts that I would like to share. But I need to produce on the same type of wave I'm on. And Purpose was right on that wave. [00:07:51] Speaker A: So this album, when you produce, so you get the music. Then you write or you have concepts already and you try to find a beat. I always want to know what's the process. [00:08:01] Speaker B: It can go both ways. It can go. No, I'll definitely have the concept first. [00:08:05] Speaker A: Okay. [00:08:06] Speaker B: I definitely have the concept first. The concept come first. But the way it goes could. It could vary from the beat, right? Like the beat is fast. Like I can have a tempo in my head, right. And I'll say just whisper it to myself. But if the beat fit that, then we could. We could go there. But it has to have certain sounds to make me want to do that or I just end up just doing something. [00:08:35] Speaker A: You. You said a key word that I did a live the other day and I said something about the tempo. I felt like the hip hop tempo got real slow lately. Like, it's no more. Let it roll, get bowl. I just can't hold it. There's none of that no more. What do you attribute that to? [00:08:55] Speaker B: It's coming out scissor, man. It's the drug choice. [00:08:59] Speaker A: Okay. [00:08:59] Speaker B: It's like, you know, the drug choice and, you know, I'm not knocking nobody for, you know, the choices. But don't overdo anything. It's not. It's not good. Those too much. But look at it, look at it, man. It's like back then it was just more up tempo, right? Cocaine. I'm not saying cocaine is good for you, but you had cool, right? They had white line, but you had something. But they were innovating. Less tv. We fought to get outside. So getting outside and then show. Display your talent when you go inside and you writing and then you go outside to showcase just whatever you did. So I contributed to, like, now the kids stay inside, right? They do their drugs and they. They become emos. Nothing against emos, but they become like more introverted. So they said, yeah, introverted. And they want it just handed to them so they don't really think. So the engineer is doing most of the music now. [00:10:02] Speaker A: Right, right, right. So. So you. How many. How many songs did you record for this project? [00:10:11] Speaker B: That's a good question. I lost. [00:10:14] Speaker A: How about this? Because how do you. How do you. [00:10:15] Speaker B: How do you narrow it down? [00:10:17] Speaker A: How do you narrow it down? That's what I want to know, man. [00:10:20] Speaker B: Is it's hard because it's like what he'll do is he'll hit me with something, like after we finish, and he'll hit me with something that I did, and I'm like, oh, no, this got it going. We, like. I think you do that to keep it, keep this going, you know what I'm saying? It's an interesting kind of vibe. And we just picked the, the, the one that stay inside the concept realm because some of them may be too long and it's a concept by itself. Like, there's a song that I wanted to put on there, but we would have to move three songs. But it's just, it'll take the album somewhere else. [00:11:01] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right, right. [00:11:02] Speaker B: And that's coming. That's something I, I, I, I had in mind for a very long time. Because purpose was like, yo, what are you gonna do with this? This is, this is like insane. And I said, well, we can't put it on the practice because it's gonna move that out the way for the, for this. So we just hold it like that, you know what I mean? [00:11:22] Speaker A: I thought the album was sequence real well, like, because, you know, back in the days, the song order meant a lot. Like, you got to start it with a good joint. If you're not going to do it all out, intro, it got to be a good opening song and then you got to close it. I love Ben Large too. You know what I'm saying? I love being large. What was your mind state on that? Because that was like you was rapping. Rapping. But you, you had a tone. Like, I know you do different tones when you rap. What, what make you go into these tones of. Especially on Ben Lodge? [00:11:57] Speaker B: Oh, man, it's the, it's the way that the beat make me feel at that moment. You know, I just embrace the beat like it's tailor made for me or I adjust myself to it. So whenever I feel at that moment like, yo, this have to have that type of tone in it, you know, that's, that's what it is. And then you got, you got Planet Asia on that. That's bananas. Yeah. So it was just like, yo, this, this, this. Even though I did my verse, you know what I'm saying? This was the type of vibe I felt on that or that, that, that was like flowing so deep. Little part of it, you know what I mean? [00:12:44] Speaker A: Do, do, do you how you stay inspired? Because I'm gonna be real. A lot of this music that's out be trash and whack, you know what I'm saying? So I always want to know, how do you stay inspired? Stay in your element, stay true to yourself. Because we know everything ain't all lyrical no more. Unfortunately, a lot of stuff is dumbed down, stripped down, and narrowed down. So how does killer Priest, stay, kill a priest at all times. [00:13:13] Speaker B: Knowledge is infinite. I love hip hop and what it is as you, you find a certain pocket where I'm not trying to. And we, we all, we more mature. I'm not trying to impress anybody. I'm doing it because I like it and I'm doing it. I, I stay inspired just by hip hop itself. I don't even, I don't listen to a lot of stuff. I stay within my, my realm, in my zone. I mean, I do listen to music, but I just, I stay to me, you know, and what I do to stay inspired is I'm just, I just be myself, you know, and the things that I'm into. [00:14:07] Speaker A: Do you draw inspiration from your younger self or like, like where is it? Because every time I've ever seen it, like, yeah, I remember seeing you on bcat, right? Like B Cat because, you know, you're from. We from. We both from the town, you know what I'm saying? [00:14:24] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:14:25] Speaker A: And, and I would. And, and when I first saw you, I was like, yeah, when I first saw you, I was like, now that's a Brooklyn, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know. Is this something about the way you. I said, nah, that's BK Because I could, you know, we could tell the difference between the Harlem dude, the Queens dude, Bronx. But when you see Brooklyn, you'll be like, nah, that's Brooklyn right there. You was downtown, you know what I'm saying? And a lot of people don't walk downtown BK back in the days. But when I first saw you, I was like, okay, something about this dude especially. And every time I seen your name in the track listing, I knew I was going to get a rhyme like a. Like he was about to rap, he wasn't going to get on there and play. What does that inspiration come from? Because you know, some dudes to get on there and be like a dilly dally w pally, you know what I'm saying? And that's it. What is it about you that makes sure that your lyrics is potent and you just never waste around. [00:15:22] Speaker B: I don't, it's. It's serious with me. I don't see as, as a game. It's like, let me, let me, let me really slow down on that one and just think what it is. It's like I'm saying something. If I'm gonna, if I'm gonna have a voice to be out there and rhymes, I have to be able to say something and it has to be able to capture anybody around. And so from that standpoint, that's what, that's what it is. It's like I'm not just gonna get out there and just say anything. No. [00:16:02] Speaker A: How do you enter them zones? [00:16:03] Speaker B: I can't. If I tried, I, I can't even. If I tried. [00:16:06] Speaker A: I was gonna say that to you because I was gonna say, how do you enter? Because it's like. You, you. Damn. How could I put this? You, you one of them individuals to me that, That I could seek into different realms. Like you could be rapping and you physically. You physically. You physically. Yeah, this is what I'm saying. You physically could be in Poland, but you could rapping. Like you sound like you're on Franklin Avenue. You understand what I'm saying? Or you could be on a plane with a rap and then it just sound like you on the moon somewhere. You know what I'm saying? And you looking down at earth. But it makes sense to where. It's not like too far out. You understand what I'm saying? Like it's still street. It's not like the, the, the, the. The ignorant could listen to it. The, the. The. The smart dudes could listen to it. How do you do. How do. How are you able to do that? Because I see a lot of imitators, but I ain't gonna go into that, but I see a lot of people trying to copy that. How do you do that? Because it's a, it's. I don't know if, I don't know if anybody ever told you it's a real gift. And I don't. And I always tell people our gifts is from God, but we the vessel for it. You understand what I'm saying? [00:17:20] Speaker B: Right? [00:17:21] Speaker A: How do you, how do you recognize this gift and just keep giving the gift. [00:17:30] Speaker B: Man? It's a good question. I don't get in the way. And whatever it is, you know, like you said, God said, we the vessel. I just allow the chi to go through. And first and foremost, I'm hip hop. I love hip hop, right? So it's going to be. It's going to be hip hop. It's going to be poetry. Rhythm and poetry. It's going to be poetry. And so that with the stuff I'll be thinking about sometime as. Wow. Let me make sure this is right. Yeah, yeah. [00:18:10] Speaker A: You, you, you, you, you rap. [00:18:12] Speaker B: I got a crazy imagination. [00:18:15] Speaker A: Yeah. That summed it all up. You, you, you, you rhyme with some of them goats, greatest of all time rappers, but I never seen you get washed. You Actually might have had the best verse on. And you rhyme with Jizza, my. My personal Queensbridge favorite, tragedy, Gaddafi, Timbo King. You rhyme with rza, you rhyme with them. What is it like when, when you, when you rhyming with dudes, do you be like, nah, this not getting me on this record. Or do you do. Do you hear their verses or do you automatic. Because I think you'll be setting the tone sometimes. I. I'm gonna say that I'm gonna be. I'm gonna brag for you real quick. I think you set the tone and I think people follow where you went with it. How, how, how correct am I on that? [00:19:07] Speaker B: 100 you said. Yeah, yeah, 100. A lot of times. I mean, it's just the caliber. Like when you, when you come in with. And this always. So I'm not saying nothing out of pocket. [00:19:20] Speaker A: Right. [00:19:21] Speaker B: It always been this way. It always been this way. And I, And I expect it. You know what I'm saying? So it's like when you rhyming and you know, okay, we're gonna, we're gonna take it here and we're gonna go even there. Like, I have that ability, and I'm not, I'm not trying to, but it's. We can go there. And so I have to set the tone most of the time. And I'm around the clan. [00:19:48] Speaker A: Right, Right. [00:19:49] Speaker B: I had to do battles, I had to do, I've done. I had to prove my work. And so after a while, you have to acknowledge like, okay, this is, this is heavyweight. So I need to be. So I'll say I'm a tone setter. [00:20:04] Speaker A: Right, Right. You. You also, in our previous interview, you disclosed to the interview, I mean, to the people that the Aid song actually was your record. That's why you on the song. [00:20:16] Speaker B: That's right. [00:20:16] Speaker A: And I don't think a lot of people. Go ahead. [00:20:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it was, it's called, it was called As I Die Slowly. So it was a song about my. Yeah, so it was a song about my sister. She passed away from aids. So I, I wrote that and then it was. We flipped it around because when Rizza was like, yo, we got this, we got this, this deal with. Who is. It was. It was a Soda is Some Company, whatever. Then we did it for that. We was in the studio and I was just like, it's about aids, man. I was like, well, that's right up my alley. I was like, I gotta. I got a song already. And I, I just flipped AIDS to America. That's. [00:20:57] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. [00:20:58] Speaker B: That's why I went. That's why I went first. [00:21:00] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I said. You. [00:21:00] Speaker B: You. [00:21:01] Speaker A: You. [00:21:01] Speaker B: Yeah, you. [00:21:02] Speaker A: You set that. You set the tone of the album. I mean, of the song. That was off a soundtrack, right? That was. I think that was a soundtrack. [00:21:09] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was. It was from a. It was from some type of. You know, how they. They give out. Like, they do it for. It was like a charity or something. [00:21:19] Speaker A: Yeah, some not for profit or something like that. [00:21:21] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was. It was like a commercial. [00:21:25] Speaker A: I'm about to ask you a tough question. How many albums? How many albums you got? [00:21:34] Speaker B: I said somewhere on the album that I'm on my 13 something. I'm on another run. Maybe 20 up there. I don't know. [00:21:41] Speaker A: But this is part two of Braxis too, right? [00:21:44] Speaker B: Yes. How much. How many albums I put out or how many I got? [00:21:50] Speaker A: How many albums you put out? How many albums you put out? [00:21:55] Speaker B: Question. [00:21:55] Speaker A: Because I was looking. I was like, the. The. I was like, hold on now, this is. [00:22:00] Speaker B: This. [00:22:00] Speaker A: It might be like 17, 18 or something like that. [00:22:04] Speaker B: I'm up there. I'm up there. I lost. I lost count after Psychic. That's a double album. You gotta count that as two. [00:22:12] Speaker A: Okay. [00:22:12] Speaker B: Psychic World, Second World. [00:22:15] Speaker A: You, You. Everybody knows you for Bible. Everybody knows you for fourth chamber. So you. Do you have people saying, yo, you should do Bible, 2, 3, and 4. Like, do you get that request a lot. [00:22:34] Speaker B: Man? That's okay. Yeah, you know, I did. I did a verse on that. This sister. Shut up. This sister had played it for me one time, and I forget. I. I did another rhyme on the Bible beat and I can't find it. And she had it. Never gave it to. Wow. Yo, I was like. I was like, yeah, but it wasn't Bible too. But I get that request a lot. I get that request a lot. And why don't you do it? No. Who knows? Yeah, yeah, who knows? That's. That's nothing. No, who knows? It ain't done yet. [00:23:14] Speaker A: How many. How many beat submissions do you get? [00:23:19] Speaker B: I can count. [00:23:20] Speaker A: And how do you pick? That's what I want to know. Because you said you did this album with purpose, right? I'm pretty sure you get beat submissions. Why did you do an album. Why did you do Abraxas with him? [00:23:32] Speaker B: He's been around for a very long time. And what really got me, I did this one bodega 95. I love that beat. That sound like old fourth disciple and 95, bro digging my bag that be caught me. And then he. Then he hit me with another one that was like, every time. Because I. I'm using. I got a. A set of producers I love, like. Like Fourth. I love True Master. But when I'm doing, like, a collage. A collage Jordan from God, Rap Rivers. But his. His beat, he always got this one beat that's always like. It's like, I never forgot this 90s or this. This type of soul or this type of environment. That's why I chose this beat. And then we sat down, and I said, let me see what he really could do, right? And he proved me wrong. He kept coming back with peace. And I was like, you know what? You gotta like. I want to get him in the woo elements. Because he was like. He always telling me, yo, let me remix Ghost album or something. Yo, you should. Oh, oh, Ray Ray. I can remix, but I think he has this sound for that. [00:24:50] Speaker A: Is it a Wu Tang sound, in your opinion? [00:24:55] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, there is. I mean, I can't. I can't deny that. Definitely there was a woo element. And I'll say Fourth Disciple, True Master Reza. But then there's like. Like, hip hop is. There's always somebody going to come. Like, I love Kanye Beach Show. He just understood how to take it. Take it back, because what they forgot, he just rewinded. [00:25:27] Speaker A: Right, right, right. [00:25:28] Speaker B: Killed it. [00:25:30] Speaker A: I like you and Fourth. What was going on? When y' all gonna do some work? [00:25:35] Speaker B: We already did it, man. The albums. He got it. So, you know, like, with. With True Master, when I work with true Master and 4th. So that album. Me and 4th got two albums. It was. There was. There was a. I'll tell y' all this now. We was planning on doing the heavy Mental together. I had a lot of this. Okay. And True Master. I can say it now. [00:25:58] Speaker A: Okay. [00:25:59] Speaker B: Because it's still. Is still in process. So what happened was me and True Master end up True Master. When he came home, he was like, oh, you spit like that? Hell, no. Let's just do this right now. So we did it. I wanted. We was doing that with True Master. He just came home. Me and Four already had the album done, so it's called Celestial Grandma. And we chopped it down for that. We got crazy stuff, and we got an album coming out soon. Put it that way. It's done. I'm talking about skits and everything. [00:26:34] Speaker A: How do you. How do you relate? [00:26:35] Speaker B: I let Fourth run that. [00:26:37] Speaker A: Right. [00:26:37] Speaker B: That's awful. [00:26:38] Speaker A: That's his play. [00:26:38] Speaker B: I called him up. Yeah. [00:26:41] Speaker A: How do you. How do you release. What's your release schedule? Because it seemed like you just wake up and be like, I got a new album coming out in three weeks. What's your release schedule? What's your release schedule? Like, how do you release it? [00:26:59] Speaker B: All right, well, with my bag. [00:27:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:01] Speaker B: Because I Literally doing that. [00:27:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:07] Speaker B: Well, I still got to put, you know, certain things together, but I just get inspired sometimes. Sometimes I feel like, you know, like right now you get on the road and then people be like, yo, man, that album was it. Like, everybody practices too. Like, shout out to everybody who got. Got it, man. They. I'm gonna get props all over for Abraxas too. We didn't really put it that way, but it's just like, damn. That's how. That's how things happen. You don't plan them like that. [00:27:43] Speaker A: You. You did some visuals a while ago before you actually put the album out too, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead, go ahead. [00:27:52] Speaker B: So, yeah, yeah. And what was taking it. What took that so long? Because, yeah, we did Nagati, Mustard Seed. And that's because I think Braxis won, like, Abrasis Reus. That was out. And see what I'm saying? See, see, what happened was purpose hit me with Naga body said, yo, remember this? Hit me with that song. I was like, oh, my. We couldn't put it on. We couldn't put it on the first one. [00:28:26] Speaker A: Right, right, right. [00:28:28] Speaker B: So we're gonna let this lead to the second one and he don't have to worry about, you know, us put together the album because it's already done. It's about cutting stuff down and putting it together. And so that's how that has started. We said, this is a practice too. Just like a practice three. [00:28:46] Speaker A: You got a breakfast. See, here we go. I'm about to cover. Is it going to be a trilogy? [00:28:53] Speaker B: Yes. [00:28:54] Speaker A: Okay. Is it. Is it going to be what purpose again? Or do you. Do you move away? [00:28:58] Speaker B: Nah, to say the same, but. But it will be going to be with purpose. But there's going to be something even before Braxton Street. [00:29:07] Speaker A: That's why I said your album. [00:29:09] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. This one's. They're gonna say, I'm crazy on this one. So this one. The next one is gonna be like, all right. Hip hop. Yeah. This is what it is. [00:29:20] Speaker A: What I always. [00:29:21] Speaker B: I think I'm doing. I'm doing something that I really wanted to do on this. On this one, personally, I'm doing something that I. I had it thought about for a minute, and we're just gonna do it. We'll spin it. I don't care about nothing. Radio just going in. [00:29:36] Speaker A: I feel like I never heard you angry. Like, you never really like do dis records or be pissed off. Like. Or do we be missing it? Like do you do do is are you. Have you ever had a time where you would just like wanted to go in the studio and venture lyrically and just go crazy and you just never did. Or we miss it. Cuz sometimes you say that go over our head. We. I might be catching you said 15 years ago. You know what I'm saying right now? How come you be so. You. You used to laugh, you smile. Do killer priest get pissed off. [00:30:16] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, yeah, man. Listen. I didn't have. I didn't. I never got approached. If I think it is, then it could be it. There'd be repercussions. But I never had that problem, you know. [00:30:35] Speaker A: Right. [00:30:36] Speaker B: There's not what it is. [00:30:38] Speaker A: Right. [00:30:38] Speaker B: I keep it this way. I have fun making music in any. In any type of situation. It's gonna be fun. [00:30:49] Speaker A: Got you. Got you. [00:30:51] Speaker B: I like. I like to. I like to make music. [00:30:55] Speaker A: The. The comparison. The comparisons in hip hop right now. You. Is it fair to. For you to be compared to people when you've been out before a lot of people? Is it. Is it fair? [00:31:09] Speaker B: What do you say? [00:31:10] Speaker A: I'm saying because I feel like a lot of time we spoke about it. [00:31:14] Speaker B: Before, I mean, to each his own. [00:31:16] Speaker A: Your phone flipped. Your phone flipped. Yeah. You know, a lot of times you can still hear me, right? This is the part where y' all gonna say, doggy Diamonds did this. I want to kill a Priest's snap. I could imagine like his, His. Him lyrically, like being angry. Not angry in the sense of just a venomous rap. Like, imagine somebody with a mind that. Like his. That what they would say creatively, artistically, that's. I think that's what I'm. That's what I'm asking. But you see, when you ask the crazy questions, like he's. Start getting technical difficult. Oh, he. We lost him. He lost him. He. [00:32:16] Speaker B: He. [00:32:17] Speaker A: He fell out of the. Out of the. Out of the zoom. Let me see if I could resend the link, because I think he didn't put his phone on D. So a lot of people were probably hitting him up at the same time because, you know, people will know you'll be doing interviews and they'll. They'll. They'll just send it. So let me resend the zoom link really, really quick, if I may. And See what happens. If not, we'll do part one and part two and part three, because it's like Killer Priest is like one of my favorite interviews to do because he has a lot of information, and it could be a time where we could. That I want to get to the part of a lot of other things that we want to talk about. So Killer Priestess, he's a peaceful guy, but sometimes I'll be wanting you, you know? But, yeah, so I'mma send them the link. But we'll do part two. We'll just. We'll just do part two. You know what I'm saying? Abraxas 2 is out right now, if I'm not mistaken. Coach put the link inside of the chat. I think it's Killer Priest. Put it back in there. Also, the first pin comment will be the album on. On Spotify. Itunes. Why would say itunes? Apple Music. But, yeah, you know what I'm saying? Y' all know what I'm talking about. I want one of them joints where he just like, yo, and just. I think basically it's because I be knowing stuff. I've been knowing certain things, and I'll be wanting him to talk about it. There we go. It's Killer Priest TV for the new album. Make sure you get it. And when you go on there and you hear Flow as well, remember, that's my favorite joint. That's my favorite joint. But he might be having some technical difficulties. So this is what we gonna do, y'. All. We gonna rap. We'll come back and do part two, you know what I'm saying? But I want y' all to get this album. I want y' all to digest the reason why y' all gotta get this album. Not only because he's from Brooklyn, Doggy Diamonds did this. Not only because he's dope. Doggy Diamonds did this. Not only because he got a good spirit. Doggy Diamonds did this because he stuck to the core of what hip hop is. Although sometimes he'll do an album, it might come off a little artistic in a spoken word sense, but he's always. He got classic verses. And I just think in our culture right now, people who stuck to the script of music, they need to be rewarded with just a string. Stream ain't gonna hurt nobody. Flow as well. Yeah, that's the name I keep saying. Flow is ill. That's why I keep it, because the flow is so ill on that. You know what I'm saying? But Support killer priest. Abraxas 2 is out right now. Again, the first paint comment on this video will be. Will be the album. Make sure you stream it. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna make sure the Spotify link is there as well as the Apple music. I don't know which one pays more. It might be Spotify. I don't know. I don't know what dude breakdowns be, but make sure you stream it, make sure you support it. And as for me, I got some work to do today. I'll talk to y' all later. I'll be back later on today with more content. I've been finding content that I ain't put out all day. So just beware that I'm. I'm going there, and that's what it is, man. So as always, I appreciate y'. All. Until next time. This is part one, so. Yeah. Bernadette, Bernie, I see you in the building. I got a guest in the building. He. He here early. Introduce yourself to the people. This part two, by the way. Introduce yourself to the people. [00:36:37] Speaker B: Yo, what's up? It's Killer Priest, part two. [00:36:40] Speaker A: Yes. [00:36:40] Speaker B: Braxton's Lord, you know what I mean? [00:36:42] Speaker A: Album out. Album out now on all DSPs, digital streaming platforms. We went through some of that yesterday. If it was the first pin comment, the last video, and if y' all didn't stream it, what are y' all doing? Like, you know, y' all gotta take time out from looking on Twitter, females arguing, and just stream an album, you know, put it on while you get in the shower. Put it on while you relax and put it on while you're going for a drive. Put it on. Just put the album on. What has been your feedback from the album so far? [00:37:17] Speaker B: Oh, man, I'm hearing. I'm hearing the C word, man. Classic. I'm hearing. I'm hearing it's my best album. I'm hearing all type of stuff, man. I'm like, yo, that's great, yo, this is crazy, yo, the. The feedback is phenomenal. I mean, it's coming from all angles, man. And it's like, man, it's overwhelming. It's overwhelming. I'm hearing it's better than Heavy Mental, man. I'm not lying. I heard that. [00:37:45] Speaker A: I was like, yo, I seen some comments. Yeah, I've seen some comments. I seen you might have had the best Wu Tang album out out of everybody. I've seen that comment. We didn't say that. Some one of the viewers said that. So don't hold us responsible for that. But everybody' entitled to their opinion. How does it feel to get received. When you put out this music. [00:38:10] Speaker B: Oh, man, it was a great feeling. It was a great feeling. Very inspirational. It's like, it was worth it. The time was worth it. You know what I mean? The time in the studio, you know, whatever funding out, it's just like, it was all worth it. And it's just a euphoric feeling. A euphoric feeling. A feeling that you want to do more and give them more. And it's like. It's also. Can I say satisfied? Yeah. It's like, yo, yo, we did it, man. We got the project. Like having a baby, man. It's like, yo, we had the project is. Is done. It's out. It's a great. It's received well, and it's no other feeling. [00:38:55] Speaker A: You. How many visuals do you got out there for the project. [00:39:02] Speaker B: As far as videos? Yes, I have three. I have three now. [00:39:06] Speaker A: Okay. [00:39:07] Speaker B: Sooner. Before. Okay. [00:39:09] Speaker A: You got another one you worked on and just didn't get released yet. [00:39:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:12] Speaker A: Okay. [00:39:13] Speaker B: This is the work, and we're just finishing it up a little bit. [00:39:16] Speaker A: So where do. Where do you predominantly shoot? Are you one of them? Let's shoot a video guy. Because that's how capadonna is. I'm gonna tell you. Cap. You be with Cap. [00:39:24] Speaker B: Shout out to Cap. Yeah, Shout out to Cat. Yeah. [00:39:27] Speaker A: I know some dudes that be standing there and be like, yo, let's shoot a video, like now. Yeah. Do. Do you. Do you really have to go through the concept or you just one of them? Let's just shoot right now. [00:39:39] Speaker B: I have to go through the concept a little bit. [00:39:40] Speaker A: Yeah, right, right, right. [00:39:41] Speaker B: Go through this concept. You know, I got. I got. I got shooters on deck. [00:39:45] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right, right. [00:39:47] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? My man? Keep your joy. Shout out to him. So. And all this. Shout out to Dave Flores, who's. He's working on the video right now for me. That's going to be. Right. I can't wait for that. My animator. [00:40:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. Those is incredible. I wanted to ask you about the W. Did you. How does that work? Because everybody. Do we know the yellow W. Do you get. Do you got to get permission to use it? Like, how do you. How does that work? Like, because you got a killer priest. The W. The Wu Tang W. Yeah, you got to get permission to use it. [00:40:24] Speaker B: Well, yeah, we. We all got like a. You do gotta have sort of a, you know, with. With us. We've been around so long that we, you know, we. We a part of that. So. Right yeah, you just can't, you know. [00:40:40] Speaker A: You got your own red one, though. That's what I'm saying. You got a red one with you? [00:40:43] Speaker B: Yeah, right. Yeah, I had mine for a long time. [00:40:46] Speaker A: Right. [00:40:47] Speaker B: So. Yeah, yeah, I don't have to go through that. Lawyers. [00:40:51] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Abraxas 2 out right now. What's your favorite joint on the record? [00:41:02] Speaker B: Oh, man, I gotta cut, man. My favorite joint. Let me see. I like trees. [00:41:12] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:41:12] Speaker B: Berries. Yeah, like trees. I like buried scriptures, you know, I mean, my man purpose on there, the whole thing. [00:41:24] Speaker A: Right, right. [00:41:25] Speaker B: I really can't pick one. I'm not gonna lie. I can't. I listen to the whole thing straight down. So Archon, definitely, because that's the set off. [00:41:33] Speaker A: Right, Right. This album, are you solely independent? [00:41:43] Speaker B: Solely totally independent. Totally, totally. A free at last. [00:41:50] Speaker A: Because. Because I wanted to hold. No, I always wanted to know, like, what's the. What kind of budget you got to come up with to do an independent album? Like, what is. What is Killer Pro? We ain't gotta give a dollar amount, but is it expensive for Killer Priest to do an album? [00:42:06] Speaker B: Nah, not really. Okay, not really. You, you. You do all that investing early, right? You know what I'm saying? So you, you do your investor, your. Your investing in your equipment and your stuff that you want to work with and certain people that you want to work with. So. [00:42:22] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I asked you that because the audience don't know. You walked away from record deals before. [00:42:30] Speaker B: Yeah, like you a lot of them. [00:42:32] Speaker A: Yeah, like you've literally been in record deals and walked away from the deal. Like, I don't even want to do this no more. What. What was what. What happens in that mode? Because, you know, people be people do anything for a deal right Now. What, what make you say, I'm done with all this. [00:42:50] Speaker B: Integrity, morals, standards. It's like when somebody had told me it was. His name was Lewis Lombard, right. He told me about. I didn't really know, you know, I'm. I'm around the gods, you know what I'm saying? So I'm around rza, all of them, stuff like that. So, you know, back then, you. We just everybody fight for deals. Like, oh, man, we get the deal. Get the deal. Until I learned that they was like, we wasn't. We was getting pennies for it. And the projects that we worked, when we talked about it, what we put. Now at that time, I was putting out, like, man, they giving me crumbs for. You know what I'm saying? Adams of Adams you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, I'm like, nah, man. He explained to me that we wasn't getting as much as they were getting now. I felt like I would want to control my own music and destiny. Plus, as some of the labels, they don't get you. And especially I'm a weird kind of eclectic, you know what I'm saying? The people at the label, they might not have your focus or anything. And on top of that, the bread wasn't, you know, you got to owe. You owe everything. And it's the vision for me, right? The vision. So I said, you know what? I got integrity. And I was also real, real militant black government, you know what I'm saying? [00:44:14] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:44:15] Speaker B: Brooklyn. Yeah. So. So it was like. It was nothing. Like, okay, yeah, all right, so I got something for them. I'll leave all of that. Just. Just get away and do my own thing. [00:44:30] Speaker A: So. So Heavy Mental, you don't own that. [00:44:34] Speaker B: Now. I, you know, for some reason there's a 10 year stipulation that you own your, your music right after that. So that's what I'm here. But that was Kevin's, man. How's Heavy Mental gonna be in their hands? And you know, shout out to RA for back then, he was like, yo, you giving them classic stuff, you know, and you know, they be in here talking to you back then and it's like garbage. Yeah, they own heavy metal. Imagine that. That's. That's so wild. [00:45:09] Speaker A: So reason, reason why I'm asking you that, because you've been in them label meetings where all these kids think they want to go. And I be trying to tell them it ain't what you think it is. Like, it's a little. You get dark in some of them and you could have some of them dudes really tell you in your face like, yo, we don't like none of this music. And they not. They not from where we from. They don't look like us. How much of these elite dudes control these record labels. [00:45:37] Speaker B: Man? Man, a lot of you talking about as far as they're not where we from? [00:45:44] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I'm talking about them, them, them folks that, you know, we can't exactly. [00:45:50] Speaker B: All of them, all of them, all of them is crazy. It's all of them. It's all of them. They all over there and they have to meet. They, they dictating and, you know, they smile on your face, pat you on your back, but you, you gotta have some type of integrity and that's what we've lost, you gotta get. You gotta get something about yourself standards. You know, where we came from. It's different now. [00:46:16] Speaker A: You, you, you. Also you, you. I think people keep trying to figure you out. Is he nation of gods of earth, is he Muslim, is he Hebrew, Israelite? Is he Kabbalah? What if, if. If you had to explain what you are about, what would you say to people? Because everybody claim you, you know, the gods by peace, Gods shalom. And you have Asala alaikum. You know, you got. Everybody claims you, you, but you show everybody love. What do you. What, what would you. What is killer priest? [00:46:58] Speaker B: I'm an embodiment of all of it, because at the end of the day, I'm the original man. And, and we all are from the origin. So I respect everybody's walk of life and, And I embody all of it. You know, there's pieces and elements of everything. And that's why I think I can maneuver the way I do is because I, I can. I'm not scared of any. To build with anybody on any other topic. And I embrace it. I embrace it and I embrace the conversation. So, you know, in these years, just being maturing more is I've settled into just like, I respect humanity and anything that we get into and indigenous too. So anything we get into is like, I want to know what that's about. Because it's all blackness in the end of the day, right? [00:47:57] Speaker A: Why they be so mad at you, though? Like, everybody be mad. They'd be like, oh, yo, you, you. Why they be so mad at you? Like, like, you not allowed. Do you feel like you're not allowed to be yourself? [00:48:08] Speaker B: Well, I'm not gonna, I don't, I don't worry about what people think. And that's the thing about me. I just, I move the way I move and it comes with the territory, right? It's like a lot of things that come with me. They, you know, I've been talking about UFOs, right? [00:48:25] Speaker A: Right. [00:48:25] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? So it's like off top, yo, preach. You, you, you crazy, right? But you already hear that, right? So I don't. We could, we could talk about him. We could talk about celestial zone. I'm into conversations and having a conversation. If you get upset with that and that's, you know, that's on them. [00:48:48] Speaker A: But I feel like nobody really want to have the conversation with you. They claim you and say, yo, you, you flipping you, you. You fell victim. You. You like, like, go ahead. [00:49:01] Speaker B: When you have that Conversation with me, you'll figure you'll find out I haven't felt victim to anything. I only grown, Right. And I would, you know, take their hands, so to speak, into a. Into a conversation, and let's walk together and so we can reason. And it's all about reasoning at the end of the day. But, yeah, it's kind of mysterious, you know, is to the unlearned, you know, I'm into the unseen. You just got to open up the books or open up your mind and expand your mind. I said that on Heavy Mental. Heavy Mental was different. All type of stuff. [00:49:34] Speaker A: How much do you read? [00:49:37] Speaker B: Not as much as I used to, man. My last name is Reed. My government last name is Free. [00:49:47] Speaker A: No pun intended. [00:49:48] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No pun intended. Hearing it whenever I could get time. I'm going to be. I do a lot of, like. Like, I. I do a lot of just listening now. You know what I mean? So, yeah, reading. Well, there's stuff on YouTube now you don't even have to. [00:50:10] Speaker A: Yeah, YouTube University. [00:50:12] Speaker B: Yeah. I say getting down and reading is very important because we have to exercise ourselves of what we was given with the eyes and stuff. Listening. But it's a part of the exercise, part of that muscle. [00:50:25] Speaker A: Right. And every time you read something, you get a different understanding. You could read it 10 times and get different understandings 10 different times. [00:50:32] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I'm still. I'm one of those dudes. I'll tell you my favorite. What always mystified me, man. I was always into Genesis, you know, sliding that. That's crazy. [00:50:45] Speaker A: Where we come from, it was a particular time that I heard, according to Shabazz's disciple, that the Millennium 2000 tape was yours. You was the one that brought that tape into that, to that crew. If they don't know what the Millennium 2000 is, y' all got to do y' all research. We gonna talk a little coded real quick because, you know, within the confines of the terms of service, of the platform, we on. How much of that that you seen was predicted? Because I think when we got that, that was like, what? Nine. Nine. Damn. What year was that that we got that tape? It wasn't 99. It was like. It was like 90. Like 90 before that. Like 95 or something like that. Yeah, 94. 95. It was like 94. 95. The stuff that we saw in that tape, we kind of. VCR tape. We kind of didn't. Right, right. We didn't. We was like, wow, Blue was blowing our mind. When we saw that and you had, you had you or, or actually in the interview, some of them individuals. I think you interviewed Jordan Maxwell, right? [00:51:55] Speaker B: Indeed. [00:51:56] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The great Jordan Maxwell. He was on the tape when, when we was looking at that back then. I think you started pinning some of that first. Like. Like you started putting it in the rap. Although Prodigy. Rest in Peace. To Prodigy. He gets the credit for it. But Killer Priest was first. [00:52:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I felt like. I mean, be honest, I think he was. I knew about it, but I didn't. I didn't really put it in lyrics. I don't think it was necessary because it was already there, right. So I give that. I'll give that to Prodigy, you know what I'm saying? When he said Illuminati, my body hard balls too. [00:52:33] Speaker A: Them balls is crazy. [00:52:34] Speaker B: I was just more important. I was like, oh, yeah, he dropped it. You know what I'm saying? So I was more excited, but I knew about it, you know what I mean? [00:52:42] Speaker A: Right. [00:52:42] Speaker B: I couldn't say the stuff that I really was saying. It wasn't even released. [00:52:47] Speaker A: Right. [00:52:47] Speaker B: And so I give it to him. I mean, you, you. [00:52:53] Speaker A: When we was looking at that back then, we like, wow. But yo, we see it today. Do it. Do it. Like, where you at with that mentally? Because when you say UFOs, I believe. Go ahead. [00:53:05] Speaker B: Yeah, go ahead. [00:53:06] Speaker A: No, I believe. You know, I believe in UFOs too. You know what I'm saying? I mean, we in space too, right? And we in space. [00:53:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:12] Speaker A: We are extraterrestrial. We are extraterrestrial to somebody else. You understand what I'm saying? So. [00:53:22] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:53:23] Speaker A: I don't, I don't. That's not far fetched. So, you know, especially when you're dealing with different beings and, and I can even get really crazy because when we see Star wars and we see Men in Black and we see all these characters that's detailed, we'd be like, who imagination made up all of these characters that gotta derive from somewhere. You understand what I'm saying? And I believe sometimes people seen it somewhere and like, yo, we gonna make this character such and such. This is based off of this. Because it is a lot of sciences that we not privy to that information. We gotta dig for that. And some of us do the digging and do the heavy lifting and then we bring it to the people. They say, you crazy. You know what I'm saying? [00:54:03] Speaker B: Right, exactly, exactly. And they'd be giving cats double life sentence. [00:54:09] Speaker A: Right, right. [00:54:10] Speaker B: And they don't never. They never question that. It's like, wait, A minute. You're saying if I come back, that's what this is? What they'd be like triple lives. So they. They already. And this is the. Your. Your own society, right? The government giving you three live sentences. And you see it out there. So look, what are we dealing with? [00:54:30] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right, right. [00:54:31] Speaker B: So. So they're saying that, yo, if you die and come back, just in case there's another one. [00:54:38] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's deep. [00:54:40] Speaker B: Some ways feed into that, into the unknown. [00:54:43] Speaker A: Did. Did you think it would be a time where we really saw on that tape where we seeing today? Like, it's. It's real. It's real. Like, because we was real big into that to the. To NWO and all that. And you know, yo, is. Is here. Do you notice they don't talk about it no more? [00:55:04] Speaker B: Nah, nah. [00:55:05] Speaker A: Remember all the presidents? We're gonna say that. All the presidents used to say it. [00:55:08] Speaker B: Now it's here. [00:55:11] Speaker A: But. But you know, it's deep, right? So I tell people this. We really thought they was gonna put a chip in our hand, right? We thought. But they didn't put the chip in our hand. They put it in our phone. And we walk around with the phone in our hand all day, every day. This is the identification, is the phone. The phone pings the towers no matter where we at. They put it inside of the credit cards and the debit cards that we use every day. So I, I believe that once we figure out the information, they flip how they going to deliver it because they let. They know about that. They not going to have that. Let's find another way to do it. And they go and accept it. And the average person is like this all day. Now we can tap things with our phone. Now we could do this with our phone. [00:56:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Machines. [00:56:03] Speaker A: Do you, do you, do you. Is it a point where you, you still have some of the anxiety of what's to come? Or you just like, yo, whatever happened, let's go. [00:56:15] Speaker B: That's where I'm at with it. It's already here. It's just too many people are asleep walking now. And it's like those who don't know what time it is, it's like everything you just said was super on point, but you just can't explain that. [00:56:33] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right, right, right. [00:56:34] Speaker B: And they, they just, they just, they just did. But some of us want to see what time it is, right? And this goes to every religion, so. So every. Every form of knowledge, like there's gods that awaken. You know what I'm saying, and some of us, like, nah. But some of them was awakened. You got Israelites. Some of them say, oh, I see what that's about. You know, I mean, some of them, you know, well, most all of them, you know what I'm saying? [00:57:02] Speaker A: Right, right, right. [00:57:03] Speaker B: You have Muslims that awaken and know, you know what time it is. And some. That's four by the wayside, not going to see it. [00:57:14] Speaker A: Do you differentiate Muslims? Because I differentiate black Muslims from other Muslims. That's what I do. Because of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because when I say black Muslim, I would be talking about the. The noi. That's black Muslims to me. But then you have other Sunnis where they might be black, but it ain't militant, you know, they not saying the black man is. Is God. You know what I'm saying? [00:57:37] Speaker B: Right, right. You can't go. You go out there, they probably don't even know who Minister Farrakhan is, you know. [00:57:44] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right. [00:57:45] Speaker B: You say that name, that name rings bells to us over here. You know what I'm saying? Maybe a couple of places, but they don't respect the minister's words like that. Right. You know what I'm saying? [00:57:57] Speaker A: What? [00:57:58] Speaker B: Papa Woo. [00:58:00] Speaker A: How important was Papa Woo in your, in your. Your cipher? [00:58:07] Speaker B: Super important. Super important. Papa Wu is like speaking to an ancestor while he was here. [00:58:18] Speaker A: Right, right, right. [00:58:20] Speaker B: You see, what people didn't know that Papa Wu was versatile. So every time he's been with me, he always telling me something like it was a secret. But he talking to me like, he told me things like, don't let nobody touch you. You should let nobody touch you. You know what I'm saying? I was like, wow. He's like, yo. And there was a lot of times that we had in the studio, I won't reveal a lot of stuff that he said, but he said a lot of stuff. You know, his. He told me his government name was David. [00:58:52] Speaker A: When he said touch you, he meant physically touch you. [00:58:56] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Did you, did you walk like that? It's like, that's. That's on. That's. That's honorable. Huh? [00:59:04] Speaker A: Did you know that I don't like nobody touching me. I don't even hug people. Reason why I don't hug because we. We hug. We only hug when we meet somebody, when we greeting and when we sending them off. Right. Other than that, it's just a formality to hug somebody. You know what I'm saying? And every hug is not a good hug. Sometimes you could have been fighting your brother and they be like, you know, now y' all hug. Nah, I still want to punch him in his nose. So it. It. It never was. A lot of hugs are not sincere. You understand what I'm saying? A lot of hugs is not sincere. So I don't. I. I'm real big on energy, you know what I'm saying? Like, I really think people have a aura about them, and they have a. A spirit that sometimes they could touch you, and you just be like, yo, man, I ain't been feeling well, man. Or, yo, I got a headache, or, yo, I'm thinking a certain way. And I believe that through energy, somebody could touch you. Like, what's the name of that movie? Falling. Yeah, I believe that's real. [01:00:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I believe that's exactly. If it comes to the mind and it comes to the screen, then it came from somewhere. [01:00:14] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:00:15] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. You know, Exactly. Yeah, definitely. That's real. And that's why he was telling me that, because I'm walking through the crowd and Cats is grabbing. Yo, don't let nobody just keep on grabbing. But he brought me back to. You know what? That's absolutely right. [01:00:31] Speaker A: Right? [01:00:31] Speaker B: That's absolutely right. And so he was just that second voice. He was that. That guardian angel When, When, When. [01:00:40] Speaker A: When y' all took a lot of losses, like Dirty. Pass, Papa Woo. [01:00:44] Speaker B: Pass. [01:00:45] Speaker A: What did that do to y' all together? [01:00:47] Speaker B: Holocaust. [01:00:48] Speaker A: Holocaust, yes, Holocaust. Right, right, right, right. What did that do to y' all togetherness, in your opinion? [01:01:06] Speaker B: Well, I would just make you realize about mortality. I don't know if. It's a long way, man. I don't know if it broadcasts together, but Dirty, you know, it's like, you know, shout out to his family and everything. But that, that was this, you know, it was just a. A deep part, you know what I'm saying? But cats gotta learn for that. [01:01:34] Speaker A: And they actually was related. [01:01:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, exactly. [01:01:39] Speaker A: They actually was related. Shout out to 62nd assassin, too, man. Like, one of my favorite. One of my favorite voices artists. Yes. It's just like. And I hear him. I don't know. It just. I just. I don't know. I just be like, yo, I just, you know, he just gives a certain missing piece to hip hop culture. [01:01:59] Speaker B: Like, you know, 60 is my teacher, man. [01:02:01] Speaker A: Yeah, so when you say he's a teacher, what you mean? [01:02:05] Speaker B: I mean, 60 will tell you, man. I used to call 60 Rakim. You know what I'm saying? I know I used to say, did you teach rocket man? [01:02:14] Speaker A: Wow. [01:02:15] Speaker B: 60, it's just like we build all you know, used to. Not as much as we did before, but 60 sec is, you know, he's my elder. He took, you know, he's my elder and he'll always be my, my elder. And it's like, you know, that's the, the 52. He's straight Brooklyn, right up my alley. [01:02:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:39] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? So, so is just in so many ways, you know? You know, I always love 60, you know? [01:02:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Shout out to. Shout out to 60 second, the real 60 second assassin. Not when Jay Z said that in the rap. The real 62nd assassin. How much of you emulated did you see of you out there? Do you think it's influence or is it emulation? Are you flattered? [01:03:04] Speaker B: What, what Drake said gets annoying. Yes, man. I, I, I love it, man. I love it. I love it. I ain't going front. I do be flattered sometimes. It could be like it, it'll make me smirk a little bit because it's always, it's, that's what hip hop is about. I don't really be upset about it, but, you know, if you acknowledge this a little bit, you know. [01:03:35] Speaker A: Right, right. [01:03:36] Speaker B: A lot of people don't give because I, I get it. You know what I'm saying? I get it. It's powerful, right? And it's like, yo, it is what it is. I don't, I don't shed no tear though. I'm just like, that's why we're here, to motivate everyone. [01:03:54] Speaker A: You know what? You, you know, you, of course, you, of course you did masterful projects. Masterful. But, you know, one project that's eluding you that I think will change the course of hip hop forever, especially if y' all could link together and do it. You, Jay. Electronica produced by 4th in Just Blaze I think if y' all could lock in. [01:04:24] Speaker B: Whoa. [01:04:25] Speaker A: We only need 10. Give us eight in three skits. If y' all could sit in a room and write together and feed off of each other, I think, I think that will probably forever change the course of hip hop. Forever. I think it'll never be. I think, I think it'll never be. Nothing will ever be the same. What could the fans do to, to make that happen, in your opinion? Well, first of all, you have to be willing. But what if the fans wanted that? What do the fans have to do to make that happen? Do everybody got to go to his comments or do they got a bombard? [01:05:11] Speaker B: Yeah, let them know, Let them know. All we gotta do is, is get to that, right? Person to reach out, right? Us connect, right? Because we gotta. We got a relationship. You know what I'm saying? It's like we met before a couple of times. And yeah, yeah, I'm down for it. Right? I'm down for it, man. Especially around these times. [01:05:31] Speaker A: Right, right, right. [01:05:31] Speaker B: I think, man, we need to get it. Let's go. Let's go. Look, Priest is saying, yo, let's go. Because he. We said this before. Oh, you want to take over the world? Right? [01:05:42] Speaker A: Right, Right. [01:05:42] Speaker B: Yeah, let's do it, right? Yo, Jay, like, let's do it. [01:05:46] Speaker A: I. I think. Listen, I think the. The. The. We might have to play two songs and then chill for a couple of days, because the information overload would be goodness gracious, especially if y' all could sit together and. And. And. And really, like, yo, this is. Yeah, this is what I. This is what I said. I think. Because y', all, he always gets compared to you, and I think it's only right that we hear y' all together. You know, it was another time, right? Remember dude from Homie from Digable Planets was getting compared to the dude from Camp Low? They did a joint together. They're like, yo, they keep saying we sound alike, so let's just do a record. You know what I'm saying? I think. I think. [01:06:36] Speaker B: And I think they was from the same camp. No, no, no, no. [01:06:38] Speaker A: You got Camp Low and you got Digable Planets. You know what I'm saying? [01:06:41] Speaker B: Wow. [01:06:42] Speaker A: But people were saying they sound alike, so they was like, yo, let's just do it, dude. Let's just do a record. You know what I'm saying? It makes sense. But, I mean, y' all have just blaze in common. He's a part of Amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. I think. I think what stops projects like that from happening. Do dudes worry? Not him or you. But do. Do dudes worry about the budget too much, how the money do you think that comes into play? Too much. [01:07:12] Speaker B: Projects like that? Yeah, well, not. Not us. I don't think that'll get in the way. I think that we. We could sit down and. Because he's an amazing mc, you know what I'm saying? [01:07:21] Speaker A: Right? [01:07:22] Speaker B: And I think egos. Not with me and Jay, but with other people. [01:07:30] Speaker A: Right? [01:07:31] Speaker B: Maybe sometimes the ego and stuff like that, I enjoy. Like I said, hip hop. [01:07:37] Speaker A: Right? Right. [01:07:38] Speaker B: Dude, it's nice, man. Come on. [01:07:40] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right, right. [01:07:41] Speaker B: I think it's a disservice. You ain't got to put him to me. You Know, he's a self. [01:07:44] Speaker A: Right. [01:07:45] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? [01:07:45] Speaker A: Right, right, right. [01:07:46] Speaker B: So it's like. It's like, let's just sit down and we can make. We can make history. [01:07:53] Speaker A: Give us six. We take six, we'll take a reach. [01:07:56] Speaker B: So we need. [01:07:57] Speaker A: Yeah, we need. We'll take seven. [01:07:58] Speaker B: Make it. Give it to God number. So everybody. [01:08:00] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, do seven. Yeah, yeah. [01:08:02] Speaker B: Depletion completion and Israelite completion. [01:08:05] Speaker A: Right? So. So we'll do. We'll do. We could do six in a skit, you know what I'm saying? Just. Just maybe a build. Maybe a build on record because y' all both have a spoken word style. Both of y' all speak. You know, the music might be playing in the background. Y' all both could get very philosophical, biblical, Quranic. Oh, you know, all. All walks of life. Both of y' all know the. The lessons front and back, like, you know, you understand what I'm saying? Like, it. It'll. [01:08:34] Speaker B: Right. [01:08:34] Speaker A: I think it'll. I think it'll be fire. And I just think the culture just needs those energies in these times where it's so much filth. That was y' all duty as MCs to come and say, okay, this is what's going on. We need the balance. And do. Do you feel like hip hop is balanced anymore? [01:08:56] Speaker B: Nah. Well, of course, I think we would. We would definitely be on them scales like this. [01:09:02] Speaker A: Right, right. [01:09:03] Speaker B: And bringing it back. You know, I think it's coming around. It's not just coming. I think it's here. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I think. I think it's here. I think other stuff is like, getting repetitive over and over and over, and it's like, ah, how much junk you was probably yourself. So I think the universe is probably ready for that. Something like that to happen. [01:09:29] Speaker A: You know, you. You got all of these albums out. What's your. What's your. What's your baby? [01:09:34] Speaker B: Baby. [01:09:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Which. No, what's your baby? Because you got a favorite, but then you got a baby like the one that just. It's like your. Your shining moment where, like, you know what? This is not my favorite. It's none of that. But this was a tribal. I mean, a turbulent time in my life when I made this album. This means more to me than other ones. [01:09:57] Speaker B: Mother. [01:09:58] Speaker A: I. I knew you was gonna say that. I knew you was gonna say that. [01:10:02] Speaker B: Yeah. That was the most heart that I ever did. You know, it's like that right there. My best album. [01:10:10] Speaker A: I listened to it. I listened to It. When you made it. Because I lost my mother when I was 2 years old and listening to was so pure. Right? Like. Like, like when I say purity, I mean, like, it was. It was things that you said that I was like, he could have said that over because. Because I remember one of the. In the skit, you said, you the best mother I ever had. I'm like, damn, they know. But I got it because it was so. The sentiment was so strong. It was no time to change it. It was, it was, it was. You wanted us to feel the sentiment. So even though you said something that was like, huh, the sentiment was strong. [01:11:00] Speaker B: I didn't even really write. I just went in, man. [01:11:03] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. Yeah, right. Did you did. Dealing with that, did you wanna. Did you wanna quit rap around that? [01:11:16] Speaker B: Yeah, of course. Right, of course. I just. It just put me on another, like, type of thinking, you know, another type of vibe, you know, saying she was everything, man. [01:11:28] Speaker A: Right, right, right. [01:11:29] Speaker B: So it's like, yo, I'm making the beats, I'm doing everything in it. [01:11:34] Speaker A: So that's what you was for this. [01:11:35] Speaker B: Album with me, huh? [01:11:38] Speaker A: You. You did all the production on album? [01:11:40] Speaker B: I did everything. [01:11:41] Speaker A: See, I gotta go back and listen now. Yeah. See, I didn't know. I was just listening. Yeah. [01:11:45] Speaker B: The sounds, everything, that's. That's the way I was feeling. That's what I was going through. [01:11:50] Speaker A: How free. How freeing is that that you could convey? Because, you know, a label would be like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know about this project. We don't want to clear for that. How freeing is it that you can actually put out a tribute project to. To Mom Dukes, sleep in peace and. And be free with it and give it to the world and also do a tribute to. How freeing is that? [01:12:16] Speaker B: Super. I don't even worry about. I don't even think. It's not even a thought. It's like for all artists, always invest into your own. And a lot of people, they don't. They don't get it. It's like, that's super liberating. [01:12:34] Speaker A: Super. [01:12:36] Speaker B: Because you could do what you want. [01:12:38] Speaker A: When you want, when you want, how you want. [01:12:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:12:43] Speaker A: Now we. In the days. [01:12:44] Speaker B: That's trouble for mc. [01:12:46] Speaker A: I'm gonna say that. Yeah. Now. Now we. Day. In the day. You know what I wanted to ask you because people got different meanings of this. You said a word. That's key to me. Integrity. I believe in integrity. Of course. I don't know. I think where we Come from if you ain't have integrity or you did certain things, you got hands put on you. So I think from us being instilled in that. That early. We just didn't. Yeah, we didn't waver from that. So that. That was instilled in us early. Integrity. Seem like it don't matter no more. Like to. To certain people. Like, you'll see somebody today and then you'll see him tomorrow. You're like, what the hell is he doing? Like, what happened to you? Like, like, when you. When you look at this world from the killer priest lens, what are you seeing right now? [01:13:43] Speaker B: Extra sensitive. No. Yeah, extra sensitive. No one could criticize you. Can't even say corny no more. And I think that kind of like. And weakened and weaken us. You know what I'm saying? It's like, come on, you gotta have something to build on and something to call. Everything's hot. Everybody. No one. Oh, no, no, that could work. That could work. And. And that just. It weakens you right now you got cancer. That's cool. No, no, it's cool. It's cancer. This is cancer, right? Right. No, nothing for it. Just let it go. This rock rocket, rock it out. You chill, you're gonna have a room for the hospitals or. And eventually, you know what happens after that. It's like we. We killing ourselves mentally. I think that it was what behind it. You know what's behind it. The hands that you don't see. Just allow. Allow this, like carried in front of the rabbit and people, yo, I'd rather be in my south park safe place. They want to be in a safe place. Everybody's like in their own little pod and don't deal with reality. And when you start doing like that, it can. It's. It could be dangerous to you. Your health, your mind, everything. [01:15:06] Speaker A: You, you, you obtained a lot of success in this culture. You, You. How many stances on your passport? Because. Because. Reason why I'm asking you this, because people might think. No, I'm saying people really might think. Oh, he underground. He be in the cre. Fair. How many stamps is on your passport? How many passports you got? [01:15:22] Speaker B: There you go. [01:15:23] Speaker A: Yeah. How many passwords you got? [01:15:25] Speaker B: I think I'm more. I think I'm thinking more about my six. Six, one, six. Yeah. And they all stepped all the way up. Stepped over here. [01:15:33] Speaker A: Damn. And. And, and so what do you. What do you do you do you trip out when you see even people, you know, fall victim to this fame and fortune. And do you. Do you trip out when you see that, or do you be like, got him? [01:15:50] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. I just feel like, boom. You see cats just going. I mean, they just. It's like somebody took their mind. You know what I'm saying? I talk about this like. Like they're not. They're not the same person. [01:16:04] Speaker A: Can I give you my analogy? Let me give you my analogy. Remember Invasion of the Body Snatchers? Yeah, Right. [01:16:11] Speaker B: Let's go. [01:16:12] Speaker A: So consciousness can mean two different things. You can have your conscience, meaning that you are aware. Then you can have your conscious, meaning that you're woke. Invasion of the Body Snatches. Remember we used to say, stay woke until them folks hijacked it? Invasion of the Body Snatches. If you fall asleep, you turn into one of them. So a lot of dudes started sleeping and they turn into one of them, and they almost like. You know what I'm saying? So you gotta stay woke. You gotta stay conscious, because consciousness meant that you was up and you knew what was going on. You ain't sleeping on none of the. The. The Enemy. You're not sleeping on nothing. I see a lot of dudes because I always say, yo, for everybody to be so conscious, how come so many people do much, so much sleepy? But if we think about it in the esoteric way, that's where the reason of the Body Snatchers was, was if you fall asleep, they clone you. Remember the pod come right next you, and you'll see you forming all over again. And it's like they found something to make us all go to sleep. And now you seeing your brothers, you seeing your sisters, you seeing people like, who the hell are you? They just a whole different person now. You know what I'm saying? [01:17:28] Speaker B: So not watching. Yeah. [01:17:30] Speaker A: So you got the Lennon Nimoy version. That's the one I saw. And then you got updated ones, you know what I'm saying? It's like Invasion of the Body. That. That'll be ill. That'd be ill song. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that'd be dope. You know what I'm saying? [01:17:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Invasion of the Money Mind statue. [01:17:45] Speaker A: Right, right. Because that's really what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But. But that's. That's what. That's what we singing. When you look at the world right now, we got. Are you into politics or you just don't with it? [01:18:01] Speaker B: I skim through it. I skimmed through it. I mean, there's no. I'm not really into it, but it's. It's right there in your face now. So I heard something just Happened. The government just shut down. Yeah, they told us we won't. [01:18:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:18:15] Speaker B: Yeah. That's crazy. [01:18:16] Speaker A: Yeah. How did the government shut down? Like, who's running? You know what I'm saying? [01:18:21] Speaker B: Like, when your government been shut down a long time. [01:18:23] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right, right. [01:18:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. [01:18:28] Speaker A: When you. When you believe in, but not you believe when you know what. You know, how you navigate through this, you know what I'm saying? Because we got currency. We got so many different things that we know is just how do you navigate? Like, how. What is. How do you kill a priest? Go through this world right now Like. [01:18:49] Speaker B: Yeah, you stick to you. You walk it. You walk in your truth, right? And your light. So you walk in your light and you. It's like a mantra that keeps repeating over and over to yourself. Like a mantra. It's almost like going into a hypnotic. [01:19:06] Speaker A: Like. [01:19:07] Speaker B: But you. But you focus though, you know what I'm saying? And let everybody sleep. It's like everything else slows down. Slow motion. And that's how you got to look at it because we live. We live in cells moving through this. And this is how killer priest moves is just that I'm sticking to my truth. And don't let nobody break you, break you out of that. So. And you got to watch everything, like, the touching like you said before, and your conversations, all of that. So it's like they live. Kill. A priest moves to his own rhythm and he sticks to his. And you, You. You invest and put stock into what you believe, your. Your belief and what you know. And that's how. That's how you move through that. You know, you got. You be strong. It builds you up. Because every day it's like a muscle. You working on the outward appearance, but if you. If you work on the inside too, that strength that strengthens like a muscle, so you become stronger. And then eventually your light shines and people can see that. But you're not doing it too to be seen, Right? [01:20:28] Speaker A: Right, right. [01:20:29] Speaker B: You're doing it just to beam up like. Like Dragon Ball Z, one of them, right? [01:20:33] Speaker A: You. You. We also, you know, we believe that the government. Do you still. You still on that type of time. Like everything is corrupt and you know, it's. It's unseen hands, it's shadow governments. And do you still believe in a lot of that? [01:20:50] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yes, exactly. But you got to know. You got to mature. You got to know where you at. Like, you know, on another Knesset ship, they knew what it was, you know what I'm saying? They knew that the machines were out there and they had to get to their destination. You can't concentrate on that. You got to concentrate on build, getting your Neo on. You know what I'm saying? Your Neo is what the whole thing was based on. So yeah, we in the Nebuchadnezzar, we moving through the, through the whole machine of Babylon. And for those who don't know and we just building up ourselves. But yes, of course there's shadow governments, there's all of that stuff. But I don't waste my time on being fear of. Fear of it. You gotta stand up and fight. [01:21:44] Speaker A: In, in these days and times, who would be the agents though? Because that's what I'm confused. It seemed like everybody had a damn agent. So we talk about the Matrix. You know, you had the agents, you was able to pinpoint the dudes in black suits. Now it seemed like all these got on black suits. What do you see? Yeah, what do you see? [01:22:01] Speaker B: Yeah, discernment is a very deep part. Having discernment to be able to navigate because you have zombies and those who meditate. So you got to know who could open their eyes. Who's able to open their eyes and see. And the ones was just gone. But every, every, you can have, you know every tree. Someone said a long time ago, you know every tree by the fruit of bears. [01:22:34] Speaker A: Right. [01:22:35] Speaker B: Who said that? [01:22:38] Speaker A: But I understand, I know what you're saying. [01:22:41] Speaker B: Yeah, we, we, we also you gotta unlearn. [01:22:47] Speaker A: I know, go ahead, go ahead. [01:22:50] Speaker B: That's why you have to build up your skill of discernment. Have to know, you know what I'm saying? That way you can. The unlearned eye. You need to learn now. It's like it's on. It's up to you now. You gotta learn. [01:23:05] Speaker A: Do, do you feel like if, if say, say I had somebody, I'm like yo, they, they, they want to get a little knowledge. They want to, they want to get into consciousness. But I can't really show them that they needed through the music. Which one of your albums should I give them? A entry level. Entry level. [01:23:26] Speaker B: That's a good one. Mr. Universe. I don't know if that, that'll be. Yeah, Mr. Universe kind of entry level. [01:23:47] Speaker A: They like 17 years old and they on the road to being the knucklehead. And I'm like yo, you need to. But they don't want to hear no, they don't want to hear no lectures. They don't want to hear me talk. They love music. So I say listen to this. Which one should I give Them. [01:24:03] Speaker B: It's a good question. I said, miss, you just listen to this. Oh, just go back to. Have you mentioned. [01:24:15] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:24:17] Speaker B: It was start. Man, let him start there, because it's. It's got stuff to speak about this time. Nerve. [01:24:26] Speaker A: Y'. All was. [01:24:26] Speaker B: Mr. Universe might be a little too much. [01:24:29] Speaker A: I'm saying. 17. 17. They said we only 17. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're only 17. When you. When. When y' all was. When you was in the group Sons of Man, which, you know, y' all was really, really big on New World. This is. This is happening, right? What was your mind state like back then? [01:24:58] Speaker B: Very militant. Very spiritual. Militant. I think that was. Other people could speak for. Yeah. [01:25:18] Speaker A: How. How? Because I. I think that was. I don't know. I just think growing up, where we grew up, you had to be like that or you wasn't gonna make it. And then when we started, yeah, Brooklyn played a major part. And then. And then when you start learning about the government, you start reading George Jackson books, and you start reading Autobiography of Malcolm X and all this, and you just like, yo, remember, we really thought it was going to be a revolution at one point. Remember, we really thought that. Like a. Sir. [01:25:46] Speaker B: You like 12. 2012. 2012. [01:25:51] Speaker A: 2000 first. 2000 first. Yeah, we thought 2000. 2000 first. [01:25:56] Speaker B: Listen on 2000, shout out to Daddy Rose, man. He came to my house and all red with a turban on and a Bible in his hand. He's 120, 120 super 120 facts. And it was like, yo. And this was 1999, December 30th, one in the morning. [01:26:23] Speaker A: Damn. [01:26:25] Speaker B: Hey. Slid down. And I spoke to cannabis, too. [01:26:28] Speaker A: Okay? [01:26:28] Speaker B: And it was just like, cannabis. Like, yo, let's meet. Let's meet at this crib. It was a crystal crib. Don't think that was 2012 for him. But Daddy Rose was like, yo, we're gonna do this. We're gonna do this. But, you know, impatience, you know, I'm just saying. And I was ready, though. [01:26:45] Speaker A: Right, right, right. [01:26:46] Speaker B: I stay ready, stay ready, so you. [01:26:48] Speaker A: Don'T have to get ready. [01:26:49] Speaker B: You. [01:26:49] Speaker A: Yo, we really thought the. The clocks, the. Everything is going malfunction. The. The test. Well, it wasn't no test. See, Tesla's the driving car. We. We didn't even really. We foresaw that, though. We foresaw that. Shout out to Daddy Rose to the Rose family, too, man. [01:27:05] Speaker B: I. [01:27:06] Speaker A: That's. That's. That's Brownsville. You know what I'm saying? I remember that. I Remember that record had the big rose on top of it? You know what I'm saying? [01:27:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:15] Speaker A: Shout out. Shout out to him. And one of them is Rose. [01:27:19] Speaker B: I love it. [01:27:19] Speaker A: Did a record with AZ too, right? I'm back. [01:27:22] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm back. Crazy. [01:27:25] Speaker A: A lot of people. Enlightenment as well, too, right? [01:27:28] Speaker B: Yes, yes, yes. [01:27:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Shout out. [01:27:30] Speaker B: That's what I said. Super 120. [01:27:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Super, super duper 120. [01:27:34] Speaker B: Elder. [01:27:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Elders, shout out to Daddy. Elders, y' all know nothing about Daddy Rose. We talking Brooklyn right now. You know what I'm saying? But. But look up Daddy Rose. Definitely. [01:27:44] Speaker B: Yeah. You gotta kick out of black. He's. He's. He got the torch right now. [01:27:48] Speaker A: Okay. And he's from the Rose family. [01:27:51] Speaker B: Yeah, he's from the Rose family. [01:27:52] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. That's. What's. [01:27:53] Speaker B: He's one of the youngest, but he. Yo, shout out to. [01:27:56] Speaker A: Damn. What label was they on? I'm about to say what label they was on. [01:27:59] Speaker B: Ruckus. Ruckus. [01:28:01] Speaker A: I think it might have been early Ruckus, though, but. [01:28:04] Speaker B: Early Ruckus. [01:28:05] Speaker A: Yeah, but then it was. It was another one. Damn. He. Now I gotta do my research. I'm a hip hop historian. I'd be liking to know Off Cap. [01:28:14] Speaker B: Definitely. Definitely. [01:28:16] Speaker A: I'd be liking the no Off. [01:28:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Because I'm not too much. You don't know. Yeah. [01:28:21] Speaker A: Hold up. The Ruckus. Ruckus had the razor blade, right? So it was Ruckus. It was Ruckus, right? Ruckus had the razor. All right. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Because I'm pitching the. Then. Yeah. It was the Rose Cartel. It was the Rose Cartel, and it had the razor blade. That was raucous. That was Ruckus. In all these years, is any of these labels ever called you and said, let's do a deal. [01:28:49] Speaker B: A lot? I was more. Less. This is what Tyler told me. He said, yo, Priest, I will always hear your name, but I would never see you. I would hear a lot of things, but I was moving in my own vehicles. Ufo. Back then, I would hear, like, a lot of them wanted to talk to me, but I never sat down with. That was. You sat with only one Wendy Williams. I mean, with Wendy Day. She took me to one label that had this. I forgot the name of this, but I knew I. I knew that if I go to one of those labels, they was ready. [01:29:29] Speaker A: Did. Did you. After the Geffen situation, did you just. Was like, yo, no more record labels. [01:29:35] Speaker B: I didn't want to be bothered with him. Yeah. That's, that's one of the reasons I didn't care if there was independent labels or nothing. I didn't want to be bothered with them, man. I was like real, really real crazy militant. And it was like, you're not gonna. You're not gonna do that to me, so I'd rather do this myself. Yeah. [01:29:57] Speaker A: So you went, you went in groups, though, to labels? [01:30:03] Speaker B: Yeah, we went to Threat Records, but. Oh, Shout out. Well, Kathy. There's a lady by the name Kathy Jones who brought us the Threat Records. But that was. But that was. That was the same thing. That's what I had when I was on Gaffin at the same time. So we was on the labels and when we was finding that out about the labels, that was like at the same time. So after that, yeah, we back and be. I think we. We did dabble. [01:30:34] Speaker A: Remember, you was in like 10. [01:30:38] Speaker B: Groups. Yeah, exactly. Blackrock and Militia. Yeah, I had a better understanding, right. Of the percentages. Had a better understanding. Know what I was getting into thinking about? It was all the time and thing back then, it was like, okay, we're gonna rock this to this. This may set up something else here, bro. But I wasn't planning on living off that or, or doing that. It was always to keep on going. [01:31:04] Speaker A: Sons of man was on Wuang Records. [01:31:09] Speaker B: We was on Threat Records. [01:31:11] Speaker A: Threat. [01:31:11] Speaker B: Threat Records. Threat Records, yeah. Yeah. Weasel Threadrect, lady by the name Kathy Jones has signed us. [01:31:20] Speaker A: So by the time y' all did, like Shining Star and all, that was just big ass records. Y' all still on the same label? [01:31:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Wow. Red Ant. It was distributed by Red Ant. [01:31:32] Speaker A: That's what it was. So this Red aunt was Sony, if I'm not mistaken. [01:31:34] Speaker B: Mark, leave me. [01:31:35] Speaker A: Wasn't Red Ant Sony? [01:31:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I believe so, yeah. [01:31:40] Speaker A: Red Ant was Sony at the time. Damn. Red. And you took me back with that. I forgot all about Red. [01:31:45] Speaker B: Yeah, right, yeah. Red. Yeah. Randy. Randy Phillips. [01:31:50] Speaker A: Right, right. [01:31:51] Speaker B: Mark Levy. Yeah, exactly. Even then it was. You know what I'm saying? [01:31:57] Speaker A: Right? [01:31:58] Speaker B: Those, those companies, they. They try to get into your mind, you know what I'm saying? So did you see the names I'm naming? Right? [01:32:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I was going. [01:32:07] Speaker B: We. [01:32:07] Speaker A: We here with it. We here with it. Because I was going to say something, but then I was like, yeah, right, right, right. It ain't no. It ain't no Leroy Jenkins. And none of that. It's like, did. When you was in these groups, was it somebody that always say, yo, man, I want to sign you. Get away from them and all that how, how do is that? Because the first group. What was your first group? Was it you do you had a group before you and Shabazz? [01:32:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:42] Speaker A: What was your first group was? 60. [01:32:44] Speaker B: 60? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:32:46] Speaker A: What was the name of that group? [01:32:47] Speaker B: Yeah. What was me and 60? Man, it just slipped my mind as we said that. Me and 60 was auto war, Art of War. [01:33:02] Speaker A: And then you and Shabazz was what? Disciples of Arden. Disciples of Armageddon. [01:33:08] Speaker B: 60. [01:33:08] Speaker A: 60. [01:33:08] Speaker B: They. It was hard to get 60 out the, out the, out the out the crib, you know What I'm saying? 60 was into itself, you know, so me and Bass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I, I, I introduced bad 60s and stuff like that with me and Bass hooked up and then we did the. We did Disciples of Armageddon, which you. [01:33:29] Speaker A: Passed on Death Beat a Penalty. But we ain't gonna talk about that. You know what I'm saying? That's like one of my favorite songs ever. [01:33:36] Speaker B: But I know Imagine. That's actually my. My cousin. Yeah, exactly. Man. That was. That was so beautiful. That was my cousin that sung on the hook. [01:33:47] Speaker A: He passed away too, right? [01:33:48] Speaker B: When they was doing that. [01:33:49] Speaker A: He passed away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kev, what was them days like in. We got was at Firehouse, right? [01:33:58] Speaker B: Yeah, it was at Firehouse. [01:34:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:34:02] Speaker B: Special, man. It was like we had studio time. It was just studio time. I don't know who booked it, but maybe some of the Grave diggers. What was his name? Sims. But we just had studio time. So we formulate. And you gotta remember, you know, Bass had Razor, Me and me, Prodigal and 60. [01:34:25] Speaker A: Right. [01:34:25] Speaker B: So it's like. And then you had Knife, Prince, and you gotta Kill a Killer Sin. [01:34:32] Speaker A: Right, right, right. [01:34:32] Speaker B: So everybody was there. Yeah, yeah. So it was just like, okay, this is this group. That's how I Wake Wake the F Up came out. [01:34:41] Speaker A: You know who's. And you not to cut you, bro, but you know who's an unsung hero in a lot of this? Nobody really talk about Carlos. How nobody talk about Carlos? [01:34:51] Speaker B: Yes. [01:34:52] Speaker A: Nobody talk about Carlos. Carlos. The drums was from Carlos. Yeah. Shout out to Carlos, best man. Nobody talk about Carlos. Nobody talk about Carlos. [01:35:03] Speaker B: Carlos, Mr. Sims. Carlos. [01:35:05] Speaker A: Yep. Most of them drums come from Carlos. Especially the. That be the Penalty Drum. A lot of the Wu Tang drums was from Carlos. [01:35:13] Speaker B: Wow. [01:35:14] Speaker A: Nobody talk about Carlos. [01:35:16] Speaker B: Wow. [01:35:18] Speaker A: You noticed that, right? Nobody mentions Carlos. [01:35:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I think Ghost Face too. What is that? Tommy. Tommy Matola. Wasn't that Carlo best wife or something? Oh, wow. [01:35:31] Speaker A: Crazy. [01:35:32] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:35:34] Speaker A: Firehouse was a Town, though. That was. That was the. The. The. The first D. That was before DND Even. Even the engineers shout out to Nolan, too. You know what I'm saying? Nolan was a dope engineer, too. You remember Nolan? Yeah, Nolan, Yeah. Nolan, yeah, yeah. Dr. No, they used to call. Started calling him Dr. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was in Firehouse, too. Yeah, I was in Firehouse, too. You know what I'm saying? I was in Firehouse. [01:35:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:36:00] Speaker A: And that was just. That was just the spotlight, because you just went in there and it just was just hip hop. The room was warm, and everybody was just in there to rap. You've been in some legendary sessions. Big Pun was there, too. Right, right, right. You've been in some legendary sessions. What was your. Your Just your favorite. [01:36:23] Speaker B: Oh, man. Off top. [01:36:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:36:28] Speaker B: I think the Death Be the Penalty one was dope, because I think that that was performed the same day as Wake the F Up, right? Or. Or was that Five Archangels, right? [01:36:42] Speaker A: It was the Five Archangels, yeah. [01:36:44] Speaker B: It was a Five Archangel at the same time. So it was funny because everybody was tight, you know, And Bass went to do it to his verse because the beat was playing. Four had to be playing. So I remember bass, right? I'm going. I'm going in. I'm going in. So he went. He went in. He was killing it, but I think everybody was exhausted. So Baz was like, yo, he's looking through the. He was looking through the mic booth and told everybody. He said, why y' all looking like dead out there, yo? Looking like that? Because everybody was. We was actually listening to the song. We was loving it, but he thought we was, like, breaking down. [01:37:27] Speaker A: Right, Right? Yeah, yeah. [01:37:29] Speaker B: Well, he was doing it. Yeah. My cut. So that was kind of funny. That was. That was just like, yo, man, let's just keep going. Let's just keep going. And that's. That's how I was with that. Yeah, that was. That was a fun, fun time, being there with just all of us, you know? [01:37:45] Speaker A: Was that your best recording time? [01:37:47] Speaker B: One time I had. I said so many, man. So many memorable ones. [01:37:57] Speaker A: Right. [01:37:57] Speaker B: One is what I did beneath the surface. I snuck in. I snuck in and I heard the beat. And only Master Killer was dready. And I did my rhyme before Jizza got to the studio. And I left. Wow. And I left that for him. Kevin. [01:38:19] Speaker A: Yeah, you. You. Did you sneak on any songs that you wasn't supposed to be on? [01:38:25] Speaker B: Not a lot of songs. I snuck on. I snuck on. What's the joint with me? And, well, I Should look it up the. The joint with me Just and Ghost. Purified thoughts. So Ghost gave that to that song to Jizza. And I was there that day with Just. And I jumped on it. He said, y' all gotta record this. I put my verse right there, gave it to go. So he didn't know I was gonna be on there a lot of the second album, the W. Yeah, I was on a lot of those songs. I was on a lot of songs. I think I. I overdid it, and I. I was taking off. [01:39:10] Speaker A: He said I overdid it. He started taking over. He said he was taking off all of them. [01:39:16] Speaker B: Yeah, because Biggie, we was out there recording some Grave Diggers too, right? So Big, you know, that was the same time with Big. Yeah, Pat, you know, so we just had the studio, and everybody wasn't there all the time. So me and Razor, I was going to the studio, and that's when we did Repentance Day for Grave Diggers. And I was. And I don't know if it was Triumph, but a lot of those songs. [01:39:47] Speaker A: You was on Triumph? [01:39:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I was. Yeah, I was in the studio, and it was just me and the engineer. And I remember this was like, yo, what about this one? It was just. I was on. I just OD'd. I was on a lot, and I was. I just rhymed on all of them because I was just there. [01:40:04] Speaker A: Hold up, so you was on Triumph before anybody else? [01:40:08] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:40:10] Speaker A: Damn. [01:40:11] Speaker B: Yeah. And another beat. It was a whole bunch of beats. But it wasn't triumphed just the beats. I was just rhyming on it. Wow. [01:40:22] Speaker A: Damn. I wonder what. [01:40:23] Speaker B: I was at the store, we was at the studio, and I was like, I'm right to this. Nobody was there. [01:40:28] Speaker A: Right, right. I wonder what. What order they would have put you in on it. You remember your triumph rhyme? Did you use it somewhere else? Or do. Do you. [01:40:35] Speaker B: Nah, nah, nah. The one I did for Dready was totally different. So. Got you, Dread. Dread just gave me the beat, and I just. I went crazy. So. [01:40:46] Speaker A: 1. [01:40:46] Speaker B: I remember being just R was sitting there. He was like, yo, the one you said, muhammad Bones. I don't know if they gonna take that. So I was always going to the edge, you know, I was Killing Priest. [01:40:57] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right, right, right. [01:40:59] Speaker B: And I don't know what. Which one was that, but it was one of those. I remember me and resident studio. It was. Listen, I was like, yo, I rh on this one. I rhymed on this one. [01:41:10] Speaker A: Damn. Yo, this is for the claim the w Album. Yeah, that's. That's. Damn. [01:41:16] Speaker B: Yeah, the second one. And yeah, that was. And we was doing a great. We was doing the great diggers in. In Holly Hollywood at the same time. So Repentance Day got that. That's. That stuck. That was it. [01:41:32] Speaker A: I would have loved. I wonder where they would have put you at on Triumph, what order they would have put you in. [01:41:41] Speaker B: Definitely not first. [01:41:42] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I think that's the greatest entry in hip hop history. [01:41:50] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That monument. Yo, he. [01:41:55] Speaker A: He. [01:41:55] Speaker B: That was great. He could have did that whole joint by himself. [01:41:59] Speaker A: I think the only intro of a song that I put up there with that is I got you stuck off the realness. We be the infamous. That one. And Fred Joe, I'm America's nightmare young, black, and just don't get me there. That. It's just certain. Yeah, it's just certain intros that you was like, oh, that. That. Yeah, that just set the tone, which is amazing. Yeah, Prodigy, did you do you. [01:42:25] Speaker B: That got a couple like that, though. He got. He got the Protect your neck, you know. [01:42:29] Speaker A: It's my favorite one. Assassination. Yeah, Assassination Day, where his vocals was cutting through. I was like, yo, you hear this dude? Even Deck on Above the Clouds. I leave scientists mentally scarred. Triple XLRs, wildlife rock stars who smash guitars. I was like, deck is just. [01:42:50] Speaker B: That is incredible. Incredible. Just incredible all over. [01:42:54] Speaker A: If you could. [01:42:55] Speaker B: If you could do everything you got on. [01:42:56] Speaker A: Yeah. If you could do a throwback video, what video would you do that you never did a video for? [01:43:02] Speaker B: Bible. [01:43:05] Speaker A: What you waiting for? [01:43:09] Speaker B: No. Right? I know. [01:43:11] Speaker A: Because you own it now, right? You own it, so you might as. [01:43:14] Speaker B: Well boost ramp them Bible and Deja Vu, the song I did. [01:43:20] Speaker A: Yeah, by damn, you. You could. Yo, you should do a Bible mini movie. It's something 30 minutes. [01:43:29] Speaker B: That's a great idea. [01:43:30] Speaker A: Because, you know, they used to do a great idea, man, like a Thriller type thing. You understand? Remember Michael Jackson videos used to be like 27 minutes long. Yeah, you could. You could. [01:43:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:43:39] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that would. That would be dope. [01:43:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I was. I think I'm gonna take you up on that. [01:43:46] Speaker A: Yeah, no, they ready. Yeah, they ready for that because. Because you know what? That's your signature record. Yeah, that's your signature song. Like, you know, you. Every artist in a culture know you Bible. All the dope verses you kicked, they was like, yo, Bible, Bible, Bible. [01:44:05] Speaker B: So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:44:07] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? [01:44:08] Speaker B: I know. CeeLo. CeeLo. Yeah, CeeLo. Right? [01:44:13] Speaker A: That's like when, when Cap hit me and was like, yo, could you shoot the Winter wars video for me? I'm like, hell yeah. [01:44:19] Speaker B: Like, you. You shot that? [01:44:21] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I did that. I did Winter wars and Milk the cow. [01:44:26] Speaker B: I never knew that. [01:44:27] Speaker A: I did milk the cow too. [01:44:28] Speaker B: Wow. [01:44:29] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when I was. They milk the cow too. I did milk the cow. I did Winter Wars. I did. [01:44:36] Speaker B: Still shoot with videos. [01:44:37] Speaker A: I'm retired. I'm. [01:44:38] Speaker B: I'm. [01:44:40] Speaker A: I'm retired. [01:44:42] Speaker B: You can't help me, right? [01:44:42] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. Yeah, that's nothing. Yeah, that's nothing because. Because I already seen something. Something with Bible popped in my head, like a little young dude and, you know, you somewhere mystical looking and. And you know what I'm saying? And, and remember, like the. They used to have, like in the old western movies, maybe it would be tumbleweed, but in this one it'll be like that mystical smoke, you know what I'm saying? And you just telling them like, yo, read this right here. This is the instructions. You know, you gotta. You know what I'm saying? Because we always have to pass it to. To somebody behind us. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, that would, that would be. [01:45:19] Speaker B: Don't be like thick, thick incense, right? [01:45:22] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, because you the killer priest too. So, you know, you gotta wave that. Remember the instant thing that the, the, the, the. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You could, you could, you could. You could actually even wear the whole garb that they used to wear, but you know, black in it, you know what I'm saying? And it'll be great idea. Yeah, yeah. Be in front of a, in front. [01:45:44] Speaker B: Of a. Yeah, that's a great idea. [01:45:45] Speaker A: Yeah, that'll be dope. Because you could. What we could do, right? You could have it to where a young boy is looking lost and he out here wilding. And you just say, young man, let me talk to you. And he bring him in and be like, yo, I got some instructions for you. You know, but you know, you into this, you into that. These is basic instructions before leaving Earth. And then you go into. And as you point to the book, the book turns into the video. So it's like you showing him, you showing him the instructions, but the instructions is actually you rapping, you know what I'm saying? [01:46:24] Speaker B: And that's crazy. [01:46:25] Speaker A: Yeah. And then you. And you turn in the pages of the book and that's how the, the scenes change. You know what I'M saying as you turn the pages. [01:46:31] Speaker B: We're gonna do that, yo. [01:46:35] Speaker A: Yeah. This is what I like about you. Like me, I could tell ideas come like this. That's how I am. I could just be sitting here and just think of something. You see, I'm thinking about it right on the spot. [01:46:45] Speaker B: Yo, you're killing it. [01:46:46] Speaker A: Just creativity, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's. It's. It's really, really. It's really embedded in us to be creative. Sometimes a little. Sometimes a little too creative because it could drive you crazy a little bit. Your creativity with your creative. Because reason I want to ask you that. Did your creativity ever have you on the edge? Sometimes. Are you like, yo, man, I don't even know if I'm sane right now. Like, did it ever happen to you? [01:47:11] Speaker B: All the time. Especially right now. [01:47:13] Speaker A: Right? [01:47:13] Speaker B: But right now, right, I got too much time on my hand, and it's like, should I do this? Yeah, I'm gonna do it. I don't even question it. But it's like, I think, like, when I'm gonna drop, I'm not gonna keep it, but I'll be. So we. We got this song. That's crazy, right? I don't want to segue, but I just want to shout out. Somebody we didn't speak on is Timbo King. [01:47:36] Speaker A: Oh. [01:47:37] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, exactly. [01:47:40] Speaker A: Let me. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you about Timbo King real quick. Every song, I don't even think he know how dope his voice is. Like, every song I heard him on, I'm like, oh, that's that kid Timber. I, when I first heard him, was, hello, hello, hello. It's me, it's me, it's me, it's me, it's me, it's me. Hello, hello, hello. On the soundtrack. On the who's the man soundtrack. But I saw the name, right? And I was like, do sound ill, but I ain't going front. When I heard he was from Brooklyn, I got biased because I'm Brooklyn biased. Yo, he from Will now. I rock with him, you know what I'm saying? [01:48:18] Speaker B: But, yeah, he's from the. [01:48:19] Speaker A: Yeah, Timbo King. Even Soul in the Hole was another intro verse that's just like, body, soul in the hole, you know what I'm saying? Now, Timbo King is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is special. [01:48:33] Speaker B: That dude, man. [01:48:34] Speaker A: What. What is. [01:48:35] Speaker B: Even. [01:48:36] Speaker A: Y' all grew up together. What's. What's your relationship like? [01:48:42] Speaker B: Brothers, man. It's like, I knew Tybo before Everybody, you know what I'm saying? Like, way back, so me and Tibbo, we basically was like. We was in the. We was almost in the same crib, you know what I'm saying? I know Tembo for a very long time. He was like. He kind of inspired me also to rhyme because he had the big voice and he was rhyming before me, you know what I'm saying? Well known too. Like. [01:49:07] Speaker A: Right. [01:49:08] Speaker B: Just Slayer Cat. I was like, yo, man, who you Coogee rap? [01:49:11] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:49:12] Speaker B: I used to have these imaginations, like I told you about 60. I used to call him, like, oh, he like a coochie rap that I know. You know what I'm saying? So Timbo was like. He was like a jizzle. He would go around there. It's just crushing cats, man. He was very intimidating dude, but he had that voice since he was 9. [01:49:31] Speaker A: I'm about to say. Yeah. Cause he just. He just. Yo, I just know Timbo King or any record, he just. He actually just. He actually just released the joint too. You know that, right? He just released. Oh, yeah. [01:49:43] Speaker B: Shout out to kid. Okay, okay. Shout out to Tembo King. [01:49:47] Speaker A: He just text me yesterday. [01:49:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:49:50] Speaker A: He got a song out called cup of Dollars right now. Timbo King, cup of Dollars. [01:49:56] Speaker B: I gotta hear that. Look, he just said drop a verse. Oh, that's peace, man. He'll drop one verse, it won't say nothing, right? And it'll be crazy. And then he'll just come out of nowhere with it, you know what I'm saying? El song but people don't know about. There's a lot of stuff that Timo. [01:50:13] Speaker A: But a lot of people don't know about Timbo, too. He's a superb grinder. That grind he got. Whoo. Timbo. Timbo will sell you. He sell you anything. He'd be like, yo, you like that hat? Like, yeah, it's my hat. He'll sell you your own hat to you. [01:50:31] Speaker B: Like brother. Yeah, him and Dready, right? I think they are brothers on a low. They don't tell them. [01:50:36] Speaker A: Right, right. Is it a lot of unsung heroes to the crew that really put on to a lot that don't really get mentioned. [01:50:46] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Timbo's one of them. The whole son, Shabazz Kim, you know what I'm saying? So it's like a lot, you know, been around from the beginning. Like, you know, they. They elders themselves now. You know what I'm saying? So. [01:51:05] Speaker A: Right, right. [01:51:05] Speaker B: It's like. Because they was dead and they was There. So. [01:51:09] Speaker A: Yo, it's a name that RZA mentioned on album, and he's from Staten Island. I don't know where he at. Hezekiah. I grew up with him. [01:51:21] Speaker B: Shout out to Has. I don't know. I haven't seen as in a while. [01:51:25] Speaker A: I gotta put out. [01:51:28] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Has was always with Dulos. So you got these little clicks. It's like, shout out to them Do Littles. I just saw Lils on the live. You know, Two Littles is as Ghost cousin. Wow. So has and Do Littles. Has was there. He's original man. Right. Shout out to Hezekiah. [01:51:50] Speaker A: Yeah, right, because he's in Protect your neck video. Yeah, yeah. Has a car. Yeah, it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's. He's in Protect your neck video, too. He's walking. [01:51:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Who was. [01:52:00] Speaker A: Hold on. Who was that with the swords? That was Lounge. Who was that with the swords that held the two swords and protecting. No, not protecting that. Method man video. Me. Who had the two swords? Was that Lounge? [01:52:12] Speaker B: I don't know. I gotta go back and see that. [01:52:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I ain't really. [01:52:16] Speaker B: Yeah, the great Lounge is low. [01:52:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:52:18] Speaker B: Yeah. I have to go back and see that video. You said to protect your neck, right? [01:52:24] Speaker A: No, not Protect your neck. Method man video. M A T H. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. Because they. Because remember. Yes. A lot of different videos, though. Like, for the same record. Like when. When the record label got a hold of it, they shot a new label, but they shot a lot of Ralph McDaniel. Shot a lot of the videos independent. Because, remember, the first Protect your neck had the damn number scrolling at the bottom of it. Yeah, that was like the first pass. [01:52:48] Speaker B: Exactly. Bones Malone. I mean, you bring me back to a whole bunch of cats. [01:52:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:52:53] Speaker B: It's just. [01:52:56] Speaker A: When. When. When Wu was banned from Hot 97, did that include you, too? Was you included, too? Was you? [01:53:02] Speaker B: Of course. [01:53:02] Speaker A: Damn. [01:53:03] Speaker B: Yeah, we. I'm on the list. I'm proud of it, though. I'm bad. [01:53:07] Speaker A: I'm proud of it. [01:53:08] Speaker B: They have a big loop. Yeah, those. They got a night. Yeah. I'm one of those cats. I get mad. It's like, you read the list on BET band artists. I'm up there, I'm like, oh, you. [01:53:19] Speaker A: Saw your name on the BET band? Listen. [01:53:22] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. They got a whole bunch of that on bet. How you gonna ban us for beat? Yo, that's why. I know it's not bet, right? Word. So. [01:53:35] Speaker A: So you banned from bet? You banned from a lot of us. [01:53:39] Speaker B: Just. Just a band for bet. Yeah. A lot of our names on it. You can look it up too. [01:53:44] Speaker A: Wow. Wado. Why? [01:53:49] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:53:53] Speaker A: He said, I'm proud of it. I'm like, no, but that's a good thing though, because once they start not liking you, that means you're doing something right. [01:54:01] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. [01:54:02] Speaker A: Because we know BET is just a name. Yeah, that's just a name. [01:54:05] Speaker B: That's exactly. Yep. 97. [01:54:10] Speaker A: Damn. [01:54:12] Speaker B: I don't. I don't even know if they was. Yeah, they, they. I think Ghost revealed what. What had happened with that and they was just like, nah. [01:54:21] Speaker A: So anything affiliated, wuang and anything. Damn. [01:54:26] Speaker B: Anything. Don't play it. They was trying to get Nas, remember? [01:54:29] Speaker A: Right, right. [01:54:30] Speaker B: They had to know Nas and when he was going against Jay Z and. [01:54:34] Speaker A: Cuz he went to power, they got. [01:54:35] Speaker B: Their own little click. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He flipped out and so they had their own little thing up there. But I take those things and strike badges of honor. Right. You know, just to be mentioned back in there. But you know, I got my. I got my thing, you know. [01:54:53] Speaker A: Yeah. How do you survive with our radio play though. [01:54:57] Speaker B: These days? You got so many outlets. That's still the most powerful tool. But I think it's so many outlets that, that, that they got. And then building up a core found fan base. So the fans keep us alive, you know. Right, Fan base. And that's it. Sometimes, you know, turn the radio off. So he said, Dead Press said it went good, man. Bigger than hip hop. [01:55:27] Speaker A: What's your set? What's your. What's your show said? Do it very. Does it vary from country? But what's. Well, we know you doing gonna get. [01:55:36] Speaker B: A little bit up. [01:55:37] Speaker A: We know you're doing fourth chamber. [01:55:40] Speaker B: Oh yeah, definitely Bible. Of course you won't get those. Then you're gonna get a piece of everything. You're gonna get a little one step. Then we might just go to Walk of life, the newer stuff then. Then you might, you know, some of the offering, you know. [01:56:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I forgot about. Damn, you do got like 15,000 albums. Forgot about that. [01:56:08] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:56:10] Speaker A: When you go. [01:56:11] Speaker B: I read the crowds. [01:56:12] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I was gonna ask you that. I'm glad you said that. When you go to certain places, do you have to say the lyrics the Bible or could you just hold a Micah? [01:56:21] Speaker B: Nah, sometimes I don't. Yeah. Oh, do I? [01:56:24] Speaker A: You don't have to say the lyrics. You can just hold the mic out to the crowd, right? [01:56:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I can just hold the mic. That judge wisely, man. [01:56:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:56:32] Speaker B: You already know what's gonna happen. [01:56:34] Speaker A: Did you know when you said that I judge? Why? Did you know that that verse was going to be one of those classic verses ever? Or did you just rap? [01:56:47] Speaker B: No, I did not know. I was like, yo, all I know, I was like, they like that? [01:56:56] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:56:59] Speaker B: Man, I got some stuff I didn't even really come off. You know what I'm saying? I was pushed to do that. [01:57:05] Speaker A: Oh, you didn't want to be on the record, right? [01:57:08] Speaker B: No, no, no, no. I wanted to be on the record. I wanted to be. I was. I'm just saying, you know, I told you the story. Right, right. Joking around and it's like, yo, I just had to say something. That's crazy. I was like, I'm gonna say I judge wisely. You know what I mean? [01:57:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:57:24] Speaker B: You know, just. They just pushed my pain to make me say something, you know? [01:57:28] Speaker A: What made you so. [01:57:29] Speaker B: That was good. [01:57:29] Speaker A: I'm trying to get into your. Your thought process. What make you say two pillars of. I would make you say wisely and ivory rap. You know what I'm saying? Cause, you know, might say wisely. Surprise me. What made you say two pillars of ivory? Like, what was. What's the zone, man? [01:57:52] Speaker B: I just. I just got one of those creative. I just got one of those imaginations that you could. I just stare at out the window, you know, I always see myself as a student that never really paid attention to the teacher, but the window was bigger. You know, I could look at the. Because that really happened, you know, I just stared out the window. I was in the south and it was just like, I want to be there. You know what I mean? And it just makes the mind go. And. Yeah, it just. It come from somewhere. [01:58:36] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I told you. It come from the universe. And we just a vessel. You know what I'm saying? We just the vessel. [01:58:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:58:44] Speaker A: How important is it to you. How important is it to you to stay on this path? So you wasn't even doing a reefer or nothing back then? Or was you? You were smoking back then. [01:58:56] Speaker B: Nah. [01:58:57] Speaker A: Sola, when you wrote. [01:58:58] Speaker B: When you wrote Heavy Mention, Heavy People. [01:59:04] Speaker A: Solo, you was completely sober. When you wrote some of these verses. [01:59:07] Speaker B: That was sober. Damn. I was sober sober. [01:59:12] Speaker A: When you did. When you saw. When you do fourth chamber, I know they all smoking. And this is probably. That's not 40s was out party. [01:59:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:59:21] Speaker A: Not 40s was gone. 40s was gone. You was completely sober. Yeah, damn. [01:59:30] Speaker B: Yeah, completely sober. That came from a sober mind. [01:59:34] Speaker A: Reason why I'm asking you that? Because so many dudes think that they gotta, you know, you. You see, you done recorded with dudes. Dudes, they need to go get them pint. They need something to smoke. And I'll be like, yo, you don't need none of that. Just tap into this right here. What you think you get. And you already got like, why are you looking for an intoxicant? To give you something that already exists in you. Go ahead. [01:59:55] Speaker B: Yeah. If I did that, I don't know what I don't know. [01:59:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm already there, right? [02:00:02] Speaker B: It's like I'm. Yeah, I don't know. Dmt, they call it the chemical that opens up when you're born. It's like. I don't know, but it's just like the vortex already open. So we. I'm already there, right? And I'm trying to close the hall because sometimes. [02:00:20] Speaker A: Sometimes it's doing this. Yeah, yeah, Sometimes. Yeah. [02:00:24] Speaker B: Gets to start up, right? And it's like I'm trying to close it, but then sometimes you get to a space where you just like, you. All right, listen, I'm gonna let it go, right? Yeah. [02:00:34] Speaker A: Because I never smoked a day in my life. I never even tried it, ever. [02:00:39] Speaker B: Well, everybody who knows. Yeah, exactly. [02:00:41] Speaker A: And I ain't drink since 2002. Nothing. [02:00:45] Speaker B: That's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [02:00:47] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? [02:00:47] Speaker B: Like my. My new. Well, I'm listening. [02:00:50] Speaker A: No, no, go ahead. Your new is what? Your new one. [02:00:53] Speaker B: My new movement. Like, I've been getting into it. Like, I wear this one, man. Got the T, right? The samurai be drinking this tea. I've been drinking a lot of tea lately. It's got. It's been going good for me and a lot of water and, you know, just get back to all of that. You know what I'm saying? So it's like my thoughts now is like. Okay, I can see. [02:01:17] Speaker A: Right? [02:01:18] Speaker B: Right. My eyes open. [02:01:20] Speaker A: Right. [02:01:21] Speaker B: All seven of them. [02:01:23] Speaker A: Is it a particular tea you drink? [02:01:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, no, it's a bunch. But I like the white teas because they're very nutrient. Nutrient. You know, they all good, but white tea is kind of rare. But it's very good for you. It's everywhere now. It's blown up. [02:01:43] Speaker A: Any sweetener? [02:01:45] Speaker B: No. Damn straight. [02:01:47] Speaker A: I gotta use monk food. At least I gotta use that monk food. I can't do. [02:01:51] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, but don't do it. The back get. Try loose teeth. [02:01:55] Speaker A: No, I do. In. In. In the town, they had a spot called Davis Tees, and I used to get the steeper and Everything. [02:02:01] Speaker B: Oh, man, this guy's on point. [02:02:04] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. David C. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Davis Tees is on, like, 23rd or 34th, one of them, but it's on the other side. Yeah. Now I don't know if it's there no more, you know what I'm saying? I ain't been in years, but I'm obviously looking up a year. That's how I used to get. I used to steep my tea from David's teas. I used to get all types of teas, chocolate teas, and, you know what I'm saying? All types of oolong teas. I mean, it's Brooklyn. It's Brooklyn, I'm telling you. It's just. It's we. Because when I be so bk'd out, people be wondering. I said, now, it's a particular time that our older heads would us up if we didn't do certain things. So that. That instilled in us. [02:02:46] Speaker B: Really. [02:02:47] Speaker A: We still be looking around like, yo, my. My cousin, you know what I'm saying? Like, so he started young, you understand what I'm saying? And when you get it in. When you. When you get that instilled in you, young, then. Hey, yo, I got. Listen, I got turmeric tea. I got hibiscus. Yes. I'm a tea drinker. But my favorite tea, though, I ain't gonna hold you. Is the ginger. The ginger crystal tea. I love that tea, man. [02:03:09] Speaker B: Right. [02:03:10] Speaker A: The crystals are herbal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love the ginger. [02:03:14] Speaker B: Yep, yep. [02:03:15] Speaker A: But I. I got the con with. [02:03:16] Speaker B: That's good for you. [02:03:17] Speaker A: Turmeric in it, you know what I'm saying? Because I work out a lot, so it starts with the inflammation and all that, you know what I'm saying? Turmeric tea. [02:03:25] Speaker B: Yeah. That's great. [02:03:26] Speaker A: Yeah. The hibiscus tea is good for your pressure. And then like once a month, I take some center. You ain't going outside after you drink that center. But I drink the center because the center gonna clean you out, you know what I'm saying? You just got to make sure you drink plenty of water. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I got it. I'm t man. Center. S E, N N A. Yeah. Drink you a cup of sinner, you're gonna be on that toilet, you know what I'm saying? You're gonna be on that toilet. But yeah, that's good. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Because it's not. It's not a. It's not a laxative per se, but it's Gonna help you with some of that extra movement, you know what I'm saying? Like, I got a sauna. I sit in the sauna. I got a sauna you can sit in. Right in the crib, zip myself up. That's what I did earlier. I got in the sauna. [02:04:10] Speaker B: That's beautiful. [02:04:10] Speaker A: Got in the shower and I. And I came here to build with you. Then I'm gonna hit the gym when we bounce, you know what I'm saying? Chamomile tea. Knock you the hell out. So, chamomile, you be like this. [02:04:20] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [02:04:22] Speaker A: Chamomile, yeah. You know, yeah. And it's a lot of flowers. Right, right. And it's a lot of teas that you could drink. [02:04:30] Speaker B: But I. [02:04:30] Speaker A: But what you said is the loose leaf is the best, though, because you could. You could. You might be a. But you know what, though? I be rerunning my tea bag at least twice, though. You do that, too, or you throw it away. [02:04:40] Speaker B: You got a good one. [02:04:40] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. [02:04:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:04:42] Speaker A: You get two plays out of that teabag. Yeah, I get two. Two runs out of that tea. But you don't got some good teas. Trader Joe's. Yeah, Trader Joe. Trader Joe's got some nice teeth. Yeah, Trader Joe. But I love the loose leaf. I love the loose leaf tea. [02:04:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:04:58] Speaker A: I'm saying. [02:04:59] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the. [02:05:00] Speaker A: So pre. [02:05:00] Speaker B: Yeah, man, that's. That's a good deal. [02:05:02] Speaker A: Before we go, is there anything that you want to say? Abraxas 2 out now. Oh, let's. Let' let them know that. [02:05:07] Speaker B: Yeah, real quick. Yeah, you can get the physical copy, you know, I mean, Killer Priest tv. [02:05:13] Speaker A: Okay. [02:05:14] Speaker B: I want the physical top, probably. That's the buck, right? But it been selling, you know what I'm saying? [02:05:21] Speaker A: So. So let me. Let me do something real quick while we live, because I can show them how to get to it. So I want to do that if we could. [02:05:29] Speaker B: And it's a limited edition because I don't. I don't got the. The vinyl yet, so. Yeah, yeah. Killer Priest tv. So y' all look this great, great bill, bro. [02:05:42] Speaker A: This is the official website, right? This is the official website. [02:05:46] Speaker B: Shout out to the priesthood. [02:05:48] Speaker A: Yeah. So it would be updated soon, the latest releases. But what you got to do now, you got to go to shop, and then you go to Killer Press Merch. And then right there, you see that right there? So I'm do that again for y', all, but y' all can rewind it If y' all don't get it. So when you go to Killer Priest tv, you just go to shop and then you see KP merch click right there. And that's how you order this album right here, you know what I'm saying? As well as other things. Go through the store. [02:06:17] Speaker B: Yeah, you got the shirt. [02:06:18] Speaker A: Yeah, go through the shirt. Yeah, get, get, get you a bunch of them, a bunch of them treats. But Priest, you know, my platform is your platform. Anytime that you want to talk about anything, anything you got going, any releases, anything, do not be afraid, you know what I'm saying? We, we Brooklyn. We be K. Brooklyn Bias. So just always hit me and just be like, yo, bro, let's. Let's just build anything you want to build or anything going on the world. I ain't been on the Podcraft yet, but that's a whole nother story, you know? Yeah, yeah, I'm actually. But I might come out though, because I. I gotta make a Cali trip soon too. So if I come, I want to sit in the flesh and we really could go. [02:06:58] Speaker B: Come on, bro. [02:06:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, really, really, let's go. I've been telling people out the Cali, them food truck tacos, though, is amazing, you know what I'm saying? The food truck tacos is amazing, you know what I'm saying? [02:07:10] Speaker B: I got one. That's the best. Cap, he love it. [02:07:15] Speaker A: Shout out to Cap. Cap got a project out as well. Everybody working, you know what I'm saying? So shout out to everybody who work Electronica. Yeah, he got four projects out. [02:07:26] Speaker B: Really? [02:07:26] Speaker A: Yeah, he put out four projects. He put out four projects. So J Electronica. So, so audience, that's what we need to do. It's a few things that we need to do. We got to stay on Priest for one, to get that Bible video done. Two, we want to rally as a culture to get this J Electronica and Kill A Priest project done. Fourth disciple is doing some of the music and just Blaze gonna stop podcasting and go purpose. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna, we gonna, we gonna get some of that 20, 27 God body rap, you know what I'm saying? We, we definitely need that. And could you imagine fourth true master. Yeah, fourth true master. We need just Blaze in there. He gotta do just plays. [02:08:17] Speaker B: You said, oh, man, I can't even tell you, man. This, this girl, this. [02:08:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [02:08:21] Speaker B: Mind changing cleansing. [02:08:24] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. So let's, let's, let's as a culture. I'm even gonna go on his comments and tell Them, yo, you wouldn't kill a priest just for the culture, you know what I'm saying? Just for the culture. Reason. Reason why. Reason why. It's important too, bro. And I got to say this. We never know when we going to leave this plane on the physical. Never know. So as much as you could leave behind to live forever, you might as well do it. And I, and me personally, I'm one of the people who, a bucket list person. I be wanting to get out all my everything that I always desired to do, that I aspire to do. I want to do it while I'm still. I still got the right mind, body and. And spirit to do it. So I don't like to leave no stone on turn. If I want to go jump out of plane, I'm gonna do it. Even though I ain't never, you know, I ain't never doing those. But I'm just saying that's how I carry it. So as far as creativity, that's. Yeah, how you live forever, you already immortalized. I feel like I did some things that's immortalized, but then there's some things that I still want to do, and that's what keep us living. Because if you don't have a better tomorrow, no pun intended, you know what I'm saying? If you don't have a better tomorrow, if you don't got better days ahead, shout out to my cousin Ted, then what you living for? You understand what I'm saying? So that's the name of his thing. Better days ahead, you know what I'm saying? So, yo, shout out to 60. 60. I, I 60. I owe you an interview too. I'm getting 60 on here. [02:09:52] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know what's going. [02:09:53] Speaker A: I don't know what's going to come out of 60 mouth, but I probably gotta walk him through the zoom. But shout out to 62nd assassin. You enter the hocus po. I just. Yo, that's him on Glaciers too, right? Who on Glaciers of ice? That's 60, right? [02:10:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:10:10] Speaker A: It's been a long time. [02:10:13] Speaker B: Yes, father left at 69. It's him on Cream. Him and Buddha Monk. Word. [02:10:21] Speaker A: Yo, they was trying to see people's Buddha Monk. I interviewed Buddha Monk. Buddha Monk said that was him. People were saying, cap, See, everybody thought that was dirty on Cream. [02:10:31] Speaker B: Nah, that's Buddha Monk and 60. [02:10:34] Speaker A: Damn hip hop history. So cash rules. Y' all gotta pay homage to Buddha Monk. It's 62nd assassin, you know what I'm saying? The Cuffy crime family. You know what I'M saying coffee crime, indigenous. Yeah, they sold. They just sold. They done sold Manhattan. You know what I'm saying? [02:10:54] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. No shitty cock. Yeah, yeah. You know who else was shitty? Bismarck. I was like, yo, they remind me of each other too, right? [02:11:03] Speaker A: The diet that diabolical. See, they. They started calling everything diabolical. The only diabolical I know was Biz Markey. You know what I'm saying? [02:11:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:11:11] Speaker A: I grew up in a culture around Bismarck. He's like one of the first. He was the first toy I was up on. He was the host of the tour. You know what I'm saying? Biz market. Because I was on. I was on cold chilling at one point. But that's how I got to be around all of them Biz Markey. [02:11:27] Speaker B: Yo, yo, like a nascar. You like, you was young. [02:11:31] Speaker A: I was right. Yo, you have a yo. All right, I gotta ask you this. What's your. Did you ever fan out? [02:11:39] Speaker B: Yeah, of course. [02:11:40] Speaker A: What was your biggest fan out moment? Yeah, like, did you met somebody that you like? Yo, what was your fan out moment? [02:11:46] Speaker B: Slick Rick. [02:11:47] Speaker A: See, I would have found out how to fan out. [02:11:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Slick Rick. I never. I never saw little Kim, though. She a mystery to me. I don't even think she. [02:11:56] Speaker A: Yeah, no, that's easy. She used to be my exist. She's gonna be in my crib, like, every day. That serious. [02:12:01] Speaker B: What? [02:12:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [02:12:02] Speaker B: Oh, man. [02:12:03] Speaker A: You never saw the video? Little Kim and Big started rapping in my crib. I got video Little Kim like, yo, we started in your house. Yeah, I got the microphone somewhere that they recorded on. The microphone was around here. [02:12:15] Speaker B: Wow. [02:12:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Little Kim started in my crib. Facts. [02:12:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Being from Brooklyn. Yeah, exactly. [02:12:21] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [02:12:22] Speaker B: I never seen her. I never seen anytime. It was always a yo. Little Kim. Is she gone? [02:12:28] Speaker A: Yeah. But you. You saw Engelo, right? You saw Foxy before, right? [02:12:33] Speaker B: Of course. [02:12:34] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Little Kim used to be. Be on in my crib all the time. Yeah, yeah. My fan out moment was Big Daddy Kane when I saw Kane. Listen, let me tell y' all something. So I was in cold chilling. Everybody know to me, yeah, Big Daddy Kane is a greatest rapper of all time. That's just to me. You know what I'm saying? I'm Brooklyn biased. I ain't putting nobody over Kane. Kane is the greatest rapper of all time. And my favorite song of all time is Ain't no Half Stepping. Ain't no better song than that ever. He had everybody getting a flat top. Yeah. Raw. You ever heard Raw with him and G Rap? Yeah. Yo, I ain't gonna front. G Rap kind of got him on that raw record, though. But that's another thing. So. So look, right? I'm in cold, chilling. So I'm in there with. With O.J. o.J. Wedlow. He went. He worked at a lot of different labels after that. He said, yo, your man in there. I'm like, who? He like, Cain is in there. I'm like, yo, I can't go in there, man. It was so long ago, bro. He had the blonde hair. He was doing Meteor, man. [02:13:45] Speaker B: Wow. [02:13:45] Speaker A: And I went in there and I just like, yo. Yo, man. Like, yo, I didn't know what this. [02:13:53] Speaker B: Amazing, right? [02:13:54] Speaker A: Yeah, I was like. I was like 15, you know, so I was like, yo, man. Like, yo. [02:13:59] Speaker B: But so, yeah, I fanned out on Kane one time. So I was on tour with him, which. [02:14:08] Speaker A: Like, his show is serious too, though. Kane will be playing. Kane is serious with his performance. So the. So the other thing. The other fan out moment is our interview. Kane. So my bucket list was. When I started doing interviews, I had a bucket list. It was Molly, Matt, Pete Rock, Big Daddy Kane, and Ralph McDaniels. And after that, I didn't want to do no more interviews. So I did Ralph McDaniels, Pete Rock, and Big Daddy King. I gotta get Molly. So I was in. Damn. What was the spot by lg? The name of spot by LG Was a little ball over there. Kane was in there. Sputnik. Was it called Sputnik? Yeah, it might have been Sputnik. It might have been Sputnik. Kane was in there, and I'm like, yo, that's Kane. Word, Everything. I'm like, yo, Scoob, ask him, could I do an interview? I was scared I ain't gonna find. I was ass. I was like, yo, right? Yo, Scoob is like, yo, Kane. Yo, do you know it's a video for young gifted in black? It's an official Big Daddy Kane video. [02:15:16] Speaker B: I gotta see it again. I think I saw that. I think I did. [02:15:19] Speaker A: It's official video for young Gifted in Black. Official video. [02:15:24] Speaker B: That beat is incredible, the way you wrote that. [02:15:26] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. So it's official. So Kane and. And Pete Rock. Cause I idolized Pete Rock. Like, I, like, literally did everything after him. And I remember when I met Pete Rock, and I was like, yo, can I get an interview? Like, hell, yeah. No, he walked in the room, he said, doggy diamonds, what's up? Like, yo, you know me. He's like, hell, yeah. We all know you, everybody know you. I was like, yo, reason why I'm selling the audience that because we still hip hop lovers. We still love the culture. It's not dick riding anything. He. We still love the culture. So a lot of times shout out to Kenyatta Black in the building. You know what I'm saying? A lot of times when we see these guys, it's still the love of the culture. I told Pete Rock, I said, yo, after I interview you, I quit. So I don't. I, I. That's it. It get no higher than you. I just got to get Marley. And he was like. And he said something to me. He said, nah, you can't quit because the culture needs you. I was like, damn, all right, I ain't gonna quit. But I promise you, that was in Brooklyn Bowl. The interview was on the channel too. I was like, yo, I can't who I'm interview after Pete Rock, that was my. That was my idol. That was it. Molly's the father, Pete Rock is the son, and I'm like the grandson. You know what I'm saying? And that's how I looked at it. So Even on Ralph McDaniels, every time I see Ralph McDaniels, I do this because he the one who had us. He the one who had us running in the crib at 3:30 every day, your VMB coming on. You know what I'm saying? And we might have been outside doing all types of mischievous stuff and kicking ass and doing all but yo, video Music box coming on. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I remember I saw a Priest on bcat. And let me tell y' all about my thing with Killer Priest. I saw him on bcat. He was walking downtown Brooklyn. He had on a fatigue jacket. I think he had a wife beater and a fatigue jacket or I don't know what the hell that was about, because it was. But that, that was, that was. That was bk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what. I don't know what weights he was lifting back then, but he's walking around, you know what I'm saying? And I remember him walking and he got to right on Flatbush and Fulton, and right there used to be a chicken spot. Then it was a sleepies. It was all types of. I think it was a. Remember there was a chicken spot, and Priest was right there, and he like, yo, I'm looking for Fourth Disciple. Fourth. Come on, let's do this album. It was a long time ago, and I don't know what it was. It Was just always something. I was just like, yo, nah, that dude kill a priest, man. That nigga's nice. And it was bk. You know what I'm saying? [02:18:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:18:04] Speaker A: I'm about to tell you to show that it was. Damn. I'm about to say, was it urban, Urban variety, one of them shows on bcat, and you was walking downtown bk, and I was just like, yo, damn, that's that Kid Killer Priest. And like that. You had the braids back then and all that. I was like, yo, that's that Kid Killer Priest. And I don't know how the hell we never bumped into each other, because we. You was. We was right there. Literally. Cause me, big, little Kim, we was right here. You was down there. Dirty was right there. Cause he big is on St. James. Then you got Washington. Then you got Waverly. I'm on Waverly. [02:18:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:18:42] Speaker A: So Washington. I'm right there the whole time. So they come and my cousin. [02:18:47] Speaker B: Yeah, go ahead. [02:18:48] Speaker A: What cousin? Who? [02:18:50] Speaker B: My cousin Kev. He the one who passed away. He used to live on Waverly. He used to live on Washington. Washington, yeah. [02:18:55] Speaker A: Yeah. So he's on the middle spot or. Right, right, right, right, right. So, yeah, but when I'm talking to the bro, we could talk all day. We ain't going to keep y' all all night. [02:19:06] Speaker B: And yeah, man, you. You in the. [02:19:07] Speaker A: You. [02:19:07] Speaker B: You from the crib, bro. [02:19:08] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yo, before we go, Abraxas 2 is out right now. I want y' all to go through the catalog. Start with one. Just if you go to Apple, if you go to Spotify. Spotify. Start at the first album and just work your way up till today. Abraxas1 is dope, too. Wonderful World a Walter re. I. I could go through. I could go through all the album. The offering was dope, too. I love I with the offering. I. I forgot about that. [02:19:41] Speaker B: That's not me and N's first time doing something. [02:19:45] Speaker A: See, he. So he got a Now, no. That put the pressure on Jay Electronica now, because if you got a song with Nas, if Nas did a song with you, if Jizza did a song with you, if RZA did a song with you, all of them did song with you. J Electronica. Let's do it for the culture. Killer Priest. I appreciate you anytime. You know, let's do. Let's do part 8, 9, 10. Every project you drop, you got to come through. [02:20:12] Speaker B: Yo, that's gonna be a lot. I'm gonna be coming through a lot. Hey, yo, this other one joint. I got a nine minute song, so. [02:20:19] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's. That's that. Once you do that, once you put out the nine minute record, we gonna review the record, come back until next time. Audience, we out. We appreciate y'. [02:20:28] Speaker B: All. [02:20:28] Speaker A: Make sure y' all hit the like. Make sure you also subscribe to the Podcraft as well. He does his show you on tonight, right? [02:20:36] Speaker B: Yep. Morning night. [02:20:37] Speaker A: He's on tonight. [02:20:38] Speaker B: Exactly. [02:20:38] Speaker A: Yup. So the Podcraft will be going down tonight. That's what it is. [02:20:45] Speaker B: And tragic. Tragic allies, huh? [02:20:49] Speaker A: The. The par craft is Monday and Thursday. [02:20:53] Speaker B: Yeah, no, no, it's. It's now. It's Thursdays. It's Sundays and Wednesdays. [02:20:59] Speaker A: Got you. Okay, so yeah, just subscribe and hit the bell. Notification. So y' all get the notification. Oh, and he's at 93,000 subscribers. Could we get him to that buck man, so he get his plaque? Let's get him to that 100k so he can get his plaque. You know what I'm saying? [02:21:15] Speaker B: Exactly. [02:21:16] Speaker A: Yeah, let's get him to 100. He can get the plaque. I got my. I got like five plaques, though. But that's a whole difference. Killer Priest, until next time, we out. I'm so what I'mma do too. I'm going to make sure the first print comment is his channel. Make sure y' all subscribe. Let's get him to that 100,000, please, y'. All. All right. Until next time. [02:21:33] Speaker B: Peace. [02:21:34] Speaker A: Yeah, we out. Don't forget doggy Diamonds did this. [02:21:40] Speaker B: This.